Four dead in FL crash

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by UncleFire

He confirmed that a section of the wing measuring about six feet was not with the main wreckage of the airplane, and is missing.

According to Dr Bineda, pHd Northwester and other world recognized expert, that's not enough to cause any problem whatsoever. Who needs "all" of the wing after all? But it had to be a bomb since only a bomb has enough force to severe a wing. You know, it has lots of rivets and each rivet can withstand quite a bunch of force. So you make A x B and the result is that it's almost impossible to make a force enough to severe so many rivets (that, and the wing spar is useless because rivets alone are enough).

Sorry.

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by Evan

Well, wild speculation... it's happened on a 747... could an explosive decompression due to a rear bulkhead failure damage or separate the vertical stabilizer? I don't see it there. Maybe the cabin pressure on a PC-12 isn't strong enough for this?

That's easy to answer. I have no idea. But it's an interesting theory.

[Gabriel]

Originally Posted by TeeVee

since it is doubtful the plane had a fdr we will probably never know...

You'll be surprised. i don't know what avionics suite was this plane fitted with, but about all electronic systems (from GPSs to moving maps to integrated systems like the G1000 and so on) have solid state memories that can hold lots of information, and have a surprisingly high survivability (not as much as an FDR, of course).

I bet 2 cents that we'll have quite of FDR type information.
On the other hand, we will miss the CVR.

[Fear_of_Flying]

Preliminary report: http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/Acciden...2012120000.pdf

And apparently someone videotaped this plane on its way down, so that could be helpful.

[TeeVee]

Originally Posted by Gabriel

You'll be surprised. i don't know what avionics suite was this plane fitted with, but about all electronic systems (from GPSs to moving maps to integrated systems like the G1000 and so on) have solid state memories that can hold lots of information, and have a surprisingly high survivability (not as much as an FDR, of course).

I bet 2 cents that we'll have quite of FDR type information.
On the other hand, we will miss the CVR.

yes, i read about that--modular avionics and stuff. the problem is that when there's a fire, the silicon chips tend to melt. i read a report on the crash of another PC-12 and none of the chips revealed anything because they had all melted.

[TeeVee]

so, not being much into conspiracy, i'm at a loss.

this site gives an ntsb case number: http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?d...b-ef10278a01bc

but when you search the ntsb site, the number gives zero results...

[TeeVee]

never mind i found it.