Old 02-17-2003, 11:48 PM   #1
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France opposes war and it is confusing until you realize the french don't believe in government capitulations. They had 3 revolutions in 50 years once and they still came out of it with a king. They think monarchies(or dictatorships are the way things should be.
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I dont understand with all those long words.

Whats a capitulations?
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Old 02-18-2003, 12:34 AM   #4
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They had 3 revolutions in 50 years once and they still came out of it with a king. They think monarchies(or dictatorships) are the way things should be.
France is lead by a chosen president, right? At least it was the last time I checked. Maybe I don't understand you correctly.

As far as monarchies go, a few countries that do not oppose war, such as the UK and the Netherlands are in fact monarchies...So when you link "monarchy" to "opposing war"............I just don't understand your post I guess. It's getting late

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The only reason I put this post is because nobody in the forums ever talks. I could care less what anyone does. If I was President I would legalize marijuana and lift all trade embargos. But I don't care enought to run. That is my attitude.
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The only reason I put this post is because nobody in the forums ever talks. I could care less what anyone does. If I was President I would legalize marijuana and lift all trade embargos. But I don't care enought to run. That is my attitude.
Maybe people have other things to do insted of posting messages on these forums
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Then why are they here?
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I just don't understand their hypocrisy and stupidity. Their loss.

They sure do a good job at making us wish we hadn't liberated them in WWII though....
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you're calling people hypocritical and stupid?



and how do YOU explain banning a whole country from your chat channel?

Some would suggest that is hypocritical and stupid.




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They sure do a good job at making us wish we hadn't liberated them in WWII though....
Come on man, don't state such bullshit. That's just as lame as wishing that Europe hadn't "discovered" America...
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I did not ban an entire country from the chat. To my knowledge, three users from Australia have been banned due to improper conduct. We have users visit from all over the world, including Australians, most of whom behave themselves and contribute to a positive chat environment. Unfortunately not all do.

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I was going for humor.
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I like France. I think most French people are good people. I like French food. I think French women are extremely sexy, sultry and I much prefer them to American girls (sorry, but they take better care of themselves!). I like French wine. I like French cigarettes. I think Paris is a beautiful city and CDG is a cool airport for spotting.

What astounds me is France’s attitude. I have no problem with the fact that they are against war. War truly is a terrible thing and should be avoided at all costs. Hell, I’m not entirely convinced of the need to go to war when our economy is in the toilet and we still have al-Qaeda terrorists to go after. I just don’t think the French (especially Chirac) are being honest about their reasons for not going to war. They say that war is terrible and is the morally wrong thing to do, but what are they doing in the Ivory Coast? And what about their nuclear weapons testing on the French Polynesians Islands? Those aren’t peaceful moves. Regardless of whether they are justified or not, chiding someone else when they are guilty of the same thing only makes them look like hypocrites.

I believe the French just don’t want to lose their interests in Iraq and lose the cozy relationship they have with Hussein. I also think they’re afraid of the reactions of their six or so million Muslim inhabitants in their country. Those are fine and are good reasons for not wanting a war, but at least be up front about it! Russia and China don’t want war because they don’t want to lose their interests with the present regime in Iraq, but at least they say so. I haven’t heard of any visceral reaction in this country towards China and Russia.

Maybe the French could learn a lesson in honesty from them…
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I was going for humor.
Better to put a smilie at such humor. I've already seen enough quarrels between French and Americans, because of such remarks.
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Iceman makes a good point. Ah it's all political. Leaders never seem to want to manifest their true agenda, they would rather disguise it behind some rhetoric. I guess it spares them the scrutiny......

Many involved in this issue all have secret agendas:

France-drills for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Germany-drilling for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Russia-they sell arms to Iraq. Russia isn't a wealthy country, selling arms to the Iraqis helps to alleviate this. Russia also get a lot of it's oil (cheap oil) from Iraq.

China-also receives oil from iraq for cheap. also trades with iraq

America-wants a new friendly government who help project american influence in the region and help protect US interests.

No don't get me wrong. These are not the one and only reasons for the decisions of these countries, but these are some of the more discreet reasons.
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Name the odd-one out below:

France-drills for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Germany-drilling for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Russia-they sell arms to Iraq. Russia isn't a wealthy country, selling arms to the Iraqis helps to alleviate this. Russia also get a lot of it's oil (cheap oil) from Iraq.

China-also receives oil from iraq for cheap. also trades with iraq

America-wants a new friendly government who help project american influence in the region and help protect US interests.

Of course America, should be:

America-wants to drill for oil in Iraq, gets oil very cheap, other trading done.

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Did we forget:

Saddam is a murderer of his own people, lies about everything, and could put an end to this whole thing by just giving up his weapons of mass destruction?

Thought so.
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Forwarded to me today.

France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country.
France has usually been governed by prostitutes."
---Mark Twain


"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
---- Hannibal Lecter

While speaking to the Hoover Institution today, Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was asked this question:
"Could you tell us why to date at least the Administration doesn't favor direct talks with the North Korean government? After all, we're talking with the French."
The Secretary smiled and replied:
"I'm not going there!"

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."
--- General George S. Patton

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion."
--Norman Schwartzkopf

"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."
---- Marge Simpson

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
---Jacques Chirac, President of France
"As far as France is concerned, you're right."
---Rush Limbaugh,

"The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee."
--- Regis Philbin

There was a Frenchman, an Englishman and Claudia Schiffer sitting together in a carriage in a train going through Provence. Suddenly the train went through a tunnel and as it was an old style train, there were no lights in the carriages and it went completely dark. Then there was a kissing noise and the sound of a really loud slap. When the train came out of the tunnel, Claudia Schiffer and the Englishman were sitting as if nothing had happened and the Frenchman had his hand against his face as if he had been slapped there. The Frenchman was thinking: 'The English fella must have kissed Claudia Schiffer and she missed him and slapped me instead.' Claudia Schiffer was thinking: 'The French fella must have tried to kiss me and actually kissed the Englishman and got slapped for it.' And the Englishman was thinking: 'This is great. The next time the train goes through a tunnel I'll make another kissing noise and slap that French bastard again.'

"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
--- P.J O'Rourke (1989)

Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France.

An old saying:
Raise your right hand if you like the French....
Raise both hands if you are French.

"You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the 1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the face for it."
---John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona

"You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people."
--Conan O'Brien

"I don't know why people are surprised that France won't
help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France!"
---Jay Leno

"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into Paris under a German flag."
--David Letterman


REPLACEMENTS FOR THE
FRENCH NATIONAL ANTHEM:
"Runaway" by Del Shannon,
"Walk Right In" by the Rooftop Singers,
"Everybody's Somebody's Fool? by Connie Francis,
"Running Scared" by Roy Orbison,
"I Really Don't Want to Know" by Tommy Edwards,
"Surrender" by Elvis Presley,
"Save It For Me" by The Four Seasons,
"Live and Let Die" by Wings,
"I'm Leaving It All Up To You" by Donny and Marie Osmond,
"What a Fool Believes" by the Doobie Brothers,
"Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin
"Raise Your Hands" by Jon Bon Jovi


How many Frenchmen does it take to change a light bulb?
One. He holds the bulb and all of Europe revolves around him.
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Aha! so just because France is not helping USA attack Iraq, the anti-France propaganda machine has started already!!

On a different note, I too don't like the french, but for different reasons...
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The old "If yer aint with us, yer against us" mentality. Some things really die hard. Not doing a lot to shake the old American stereotypes, are we now? I feel bad for the sensible Americans who are accused of being unpatriotic. Kind of reminds me of the Salem witch hunts and the xenophobia of the 50's when everyone was afraid of the "communists" living in the country (of course there were none).

By the way, has anyone seen the movie "Bowling for Columbine"?

Also, I have had many pleasant experiences travelling through France. Yeah, sometimes people were a little unfriendly, but moreoften people were very friendly and helpful. And that as an anglophone travelling in a car with German license plates!
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I highly respect France, and some governments of other countries around here for their clear anti-war position!

At the eve of war it is certainly not the time to start an anti-French propaganda here.

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