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Originally posted by brianw999....and now we await the tree-hugging, airports aren't safe, global warming crowd.
Signed,
Typical NIMBY
Thats like those idiots who build homes in California in the valley between hills. Then they are shocked when there's a mud slide.
/off my soap box
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Originally posted by BA747-436I would be very surprised if it ran out of fuel. Although its a long flight from Beijing there should be a fair bit of fuel left for any sort of pattern hold that is required or a divert. If there was any hint of a fuel issue than I'm sure they would have put the aircraft down somewhere over northern Europe rather than 'wing it' (excuse the pun!) and try and get her home.
Below is an article from the Independent Newspaper quite an old quote (10 years).
AIRCRAFT REGULARLY fly over London carrying too little fuel to cope with diversion or an emergency, an authority on aircraft safety said yesterday.
The claim followed the revelation that a Malaysian jumbo jet had arrived at Heathrow with so little fuel that even a slight delay could have meant that it crashed over London.
The pilot made an emergency landing in Manchester, England, about 160 miles short of London, because the Boeing 747 ran low on fuel after facing headwinds that were stronger than expected, the Federal Aviation Administration said.
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But as mentioned before, the pilots would know if the fuel was low, and they would alert ATC to the problem.
Another person on another forum suggested windshear. I'm no expert on aircraft electronics but I believe the suggestion was that it had confused the flight computers somehow. I can't quite see how wind could cause this, but the wind down here today has been very strong. So if it is indeed possible, then we certainly have the right circumustances for this to occur.
My experience from watching Air Crash Investigation programs is that these crahses are never the result of one mistake/fault/error. There is allways a sequence of events and so I don't think we can rule out any theories just because they are not possible under normal conditions.
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I'd like to congraulate the crew for getting the plane down considering the cirumstances from what we know, I hope get the recognition they deserve.John Poshepny
If the Wright brother were alive today Wilbur would have to fire Orville to reduce costs.— Herb Kelleher, Southwest Airlines, 'USA Today,' 1994
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The pilot made an emergency landing in Manchester, England, about 160 miles short of London, because the Boeing 747 ran low on fuel after facing headwinds that were stronger than expected, the Federal Aviation Administration said.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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I hate threads like this, i have been trying to avoid it since i herd the news this afternoon. I wish people would not speculate on what happened or what could have happened. That is for the Uk AAIB to discover and when they publish their report we can all find out as it will be on their website. If you dont know the web adress here it is:
www.aaib.gov.uk
We should all be very greatfull that the crew executed a safe emergancy landing and everyone got out safe. The effect if the aircraft had landed short even by a small distance does not bear worth thinking about.
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^I agree Ollie!
ad.com had a good thread on it.....Chris, the site down?
From what we've heard, there was a power failure, so it will be a waiting game until the investigation is done.
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Originally posted by Cam^I agree Ollie!
ad.com had a good thread on it.....Chris, the site down?
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