08-01-2012, 01:26 AM
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United 737 Bird Stike @ DEN
DENVER — A United Airlines jet collided with a bird on Tuesday morning as the plane was descending into the Denver airport.
Pictures from the airport showed a large hole in the nose of the Boeing 737, which had taken off from Dallas/Fort Worth.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Jet-f...164507476.html
Video @ Link
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08-01-2012, 01:47 AM
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Must have been a freaking pterodactyl.
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08-01-2012, 04:17 PM
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Got to be a flying Penguin !
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08-01-2012, 05:43 PM
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Looks like the left pitot tube has a piece of the goose jammed in it as well...
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08-01-2012, 07:57 PM
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Yes, they lost the left airspeed and considered the right airspeed unreliable, so they declared emergency and requested ground speed info from the ATC radar for cross-check (I wonder if they didn't have a GPS to get their own ground speed, they surely had a DME).
Wasn't there a case where the bird punctured the fuselage an ended inside the cockpit (and I think severely hurt the FO)?
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08-01-2012, 08:03 PM
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Little speed tape and it'll be fine
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08-01-2012, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W7PSK
Little speed tape and it'll be fine
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The bird? I don't think so...
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08-01-2012, 10:13 PM
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The little one will need more than duct tape to become airworthy again 
Edit: Make that duck tape and it may do the trick...
The big one needs the wide roll, at least two layers, to fix the radome...
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08-01-2012, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel
(I wonder if they didn't have a GPS to get their own ground speed, they surely had a DME).
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They have dual GPS to update the FMC. The GPS only updates the FMC position; there is no direct readout of GPS groundspeed. You're right though, they should have had a groundspeed indication on the FMC and through that, on the EFIS screen. Now, the FMC does take some inputs from the Air Data Computer, which, of course, gets input from the pitot tubes. Those are the basics I remember. It's been long enough since I've been on the airplane that I don't remember the exact nuances of the system.
The DME on the 737 only gives distance, not groundspeed.
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08-01-2012, 10:55 PM
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Thanks!
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08-02-2012, 11:14 PM
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Found a reference to a bird strike at CDG on april 2, 2001, where a 767 was damaged and parts of the bird ended up in the cockpit
http://www.birdstrikenews.com/2007/1...nt-on-767.html
Strange, this one is not listed in the ASN database
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08-03-2012, 12:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel
Yes, they lost the left airspeed and considered the right airspeed unreliable, so they declared emergency and requested ground speed info from the ATC radar for cross-check (I wonder if they didn't have a GPS to get their own ground speed, they surely had a DME).
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If they still had agreement on the other two airspeed indications, why wouldn't that be enough? Or was the right pitot affected as well?
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08-03-2012, 12:50 AM
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Hmmm.....
I wonder if they might have used familiar/known power settings and vertical speeds and attitudes to keep airspeed in the ballpark?
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08-03-2012, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evan
If they still had agreement on the other two airspeed indications, why wouldn't that be enough? Or was the right pitot affected as well?
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I don't know. The AvHerald article I took it from (which by the way I frogot to give due credit) doesn't tell:
http://www.avherald.com/h?article=45395ad3&opt=0
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