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  • Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
    Just to bring home what Gabriel is saying. This....

    [PHOTO OF A NICE AIRPLANE]

    ....turned into this.....

    [PHOTO OF UNRECOGNIZABLE MATTER]
    (It's interesting to note that for the first respondents it took time to realize that they were at the crash site. The farmer said "the plane crashed here" and they said "where?")

    Brian, you are good at this. Would you do the same with Austral 2553?

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    • Your wish is my command...

      From this...






      ....to this...

      Last edited by brianw999; 2014-05-17, 22:21.
      If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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      • Originally posted by ATFS_Crash
        Gabriel.

        As usual, your posts and links were quite good.
        Quite thanks!

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        • Is this some way related to the ability of the plane to fly? That if it suffers a big shock, it will fly to bits?

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          • sorry gents, but the remnants of UA 93 were quite a bit larger than 5"






            not to mention that mh370 would've had no after crash fire...

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            • Originally posted by TeeVee View Post
              sorry gents, but the remnants of UA 93 were quite a bit larger than 5"

              not to mention that mh370 would've had no after crash fire...
              But in the case of MH370, parts like this would have sunk to the bottom of the ocean. So unless there is a visual search of the ocean floor going on, things like these wouldn't be found.

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              • yes. but it is equally likely that other parts that float, such as the hundreds of seat cushions, would not have simply disappeared into tiny fragments.

                it is boggling and disturbing that not one piece of debris has been found. and yes, i am well aware that things can float on the oceans for YEARS without touching land.

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                • Gabe, your proposition #5 has it reaching supersonic speed and vaporizing on impact.

                  While an aircraft can certainly shed parts on the way down such as control surfaces or even entire wings, without a fire, nothing is going to vaporize.

                  Perhaps therein lies a clue. If it did come in hot and straight down while it had fuel perhaps it did leave a very tiny footprint on some remote but vegetative hillside, the only thing left would be those engine and gear components that could withstand the heat.

                  But doesn't that still bring us back to a surface strike allowing the emergency locator signals to be more audible?

                  I remember flying over New Guinea in a C-121 (Super Connie) and that was frightening, it was the first time I have ever experienced a truly remote region where if we went down it was unlikely that we would be found. The crew had shut down the engines till we were a few thousand feet above the canopy and yes, my palms were moist.
                  Live, from a grassy knoll somewhere near you.

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                  • Originally posted by guamainiac View Post
                    Gabe, your proposition #5 has it reaching supersonic speed and vaporizing on impact.

                    While an aircraft can certainly shed parts on the way down such as control surfaces or even entire wings, without a fire, nothing is going to vaporize.
                    It was not on its way down but when hitting the water.
                    And "vaporize" was figurative. I thought it was pretty clear: Practically vaporized is not vaporized, and tiny fragments are not vapor.

                    Originally posted by Gabriel
                    The plane hit the water at supersonic speed and practically vaporized at impact. There are millions of tiny fragments down there
                    Strange coming from you, who tend be quite good at reading between lines and not requiring this level of spoon-feeding.

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                    • Is Cawthorne Northwester?

                      (Google translation)
                      A book signed by the author and journalist, born in Chicago, Nigel Cawthorne says the MH370 tickets Malaysia Airlines, missing since 71 days ago, was shot down in a joint military exercise between the U.S. and Thailand, according to information from the British newspaper The Independent .
                      Un libro sugiere que la nave fue abatida durante maniobras militares entre EE.UU. y Tailandia. Se basa en los testimonios de un operario de una plataforma petrolera que vio al aparato caer en llamas.


                      (Original in Spanish)
                      Un libro sugiere que la nave fue abatida durante maniobras militares entre EE.UU. y Tailandia. Se basa en los testimonios de un operario de una plataforma petrolera que vio al aparato caer en llamas.

                      --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
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                      • Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
                        Is Cawthorne Northwester?

                        (Google translation)


                        Un libro sugiere que la nave fue abatida durante maniobras militares entre EE.UU. y Tailandia. Se basa en los testimonios de un operario de una plataforma petrolera que vio al aparato caer en llamas.


                        (Original in Spanish)
                        http://www.clarin.com/mundo/Afirman-...141086101.html
                        I'm waiting for Bert Schlossberg to show up.

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                        • Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
                          Is Cawthorne Northwester?

                          (Google translation)


                          Un libro sugiere que la nave fue abatida durante maniobras militares entre EE.UU. y Tailandia. Se basa en los testimonios de un operario de una plataforma petrolera que vio al aparato caer en llamas.


                          (Original in Spanish)
                          http://www.clarin.com/mundo/Afirman-...141086101.html
                          Of course! This would explain the sudden loss of coms, the subsequent ACARS signals for five hours and the ELT pings in the Southern Indian Ocean! It's so brilliant, it must be Northwester.

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                          • The Indian Ocean has one of the world's oceanic gyres. Don't suppose anyone took some high def photos there to scan. I think wherever you are in the oceans, floating trash tends to get collected in the nearest gyre.

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                            • Originally posted by Evan View Post
                              Of course! This would explain the sudden loss of coms, the subsequent ACARS signals for five hours and the ELT pings in the Southern Indian Ocean! It's so brilliant, it must be Northwester.
                              You know how this works.
                              - Make a conspiracy theory with a couple of the available pieces of evidence.
                              - Any evidence that is needed for this theory to be true but doesn't exist, they are hiding it.
                              - Any existing evidence that doesn't fit the theory, it's intentionally fabricated, tampered with, adulterated, etc...

                              --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
                              --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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                              • Oceanic Gyre.......

                                ....well, there's another term and it's meaning learnt !
                                If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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