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-An unstabilized approach for Evan.
-A go-around (who want's to claim that)
-A stall for Gabriel
-A human factors error for 3BS
-"Ancient" steam gauge low-bypass PW JT-something airliner
-Significant weather and a shorter runway as contributing factors
-Predates formal CRM
-Apparently the first fatal crash for the 737.
Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
-An unstabilized approach for Evan.
-A go-around (who want's to claim that)
-A stall for Gabriel
-A human factors error for 3BS
-"Ancient" steam gauge low-bypass PW JT-something airliner
-Significant weather and a shorter runway as contributing factors
-Predates formal CRM
-Apparently the first fatal crash for the 737.
You must be very bored, you are digging back to before you were born for shit to haggle about? Why don't you get a job or something?
-An unstabilized approach for Evan.
-A go-around (who want's to claim that)
-A stall for Gabriel
-A human factors error for 3BS
-"Ancient" steam gauge low-bypass PW JT-something airliner
-Significant weather and a shorter runway as contributing factors
-Predates formal CRM
-Apparently the first fatal crash for the 737.
Add:
- "Dive and drive" type of non-precision approach.
- Conspiracy theories for Northwestern.
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Absolutely sticking words in your mouth but not a jab.
Try not to give up- BUT, I get the frustration.
Yes,
18,000 hours left seat - forgotten spoilers
10,000 hours right seat - forgotten spoilers
Plus a flight engineer.
1,500 fpm at <500ft altitude
Flap retraction during stickshaker!?
Analog everything. No 'what's it doing now'. No open descent mode.
18,000 hours left seat - forgotten spoilers
10,000 hours right seat - forgotten spoilers
Plus a flight engineer.
1,500 fpm at <500ft altitude
Flap retraction during stickshaker!?
Might be sub-optimal CRM behind a lot of this...lack of double checking...guys randomly flipping flaps up as they silently run memory items...just speculating.
Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.
Might be sub-optimal CRM behind a lot of this...lack of double checking...guys randomly flipping flaps up as they silently run memory items...just speculating.
Actually just reread that. The PF never brought on GA thrust either. I give. Sounds like a case of brain-blanking stress reaction all around (this is why you do you nice CDFA approach and don't ever get here). As for CRM I wonder if a GA callout was done and I wonder if the PM might have brought the flaps in without the PF knowing it... and I wonder if they were trying to save the approach rather than abandon it.
.. and I wonder if they were trying to save the approach rather than abandon it.
That was my first thought to... until I got to the part of flaps 15.
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Eyewitnesses reported that as the airliner passed near the airfield at Verona at an altitude of 3,000 feet (910 m), its wings seemed first to flutter and then to collapse entirely.
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