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  • #91
    Originally posted by James Bond View Post
    SkyNews Australia reporting that 2 oil slicks have been spotted in the search area.
    They were already as discounted as from coming from the missing aircraft.

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    • #92
      The Bermuda Triangle seems to have moved to Asia.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by hongmng View Post
        Airliners get hit by lightning all the time. FAA says at least once every year for each airframe. We can assume this 2008 built plane has been hit at least 6 times(probably more since it flies in tropical areas). Lightning is unlikely to bring down an A320 and the pilots are trained to deal with the "anomalies" caused by the strike.
        Airliners fly all the time.

        Airliners are so complex that there's typically a failure of some sort on an average flight. But pilots are trained to address these problems.

        Each airliner has had thousands upon thousands of flights without any crashes.

        It's unlikely that it crashed because it was flying between two points.

        Pause and think about that...

        Now, back to lightning:

        1) Crashes have happened from lightning strikes.
        2) Storms were in the area.
        3) No data exists to specifically point away from lightning.

        A lightning strike should be on the list of possible causes- even though "it happens all the time".

        Sure "it's not likely", but plane crashes never are likely.

        Footnote: Putzer's proposed chain of events is indeed bizarre- Like Gabe said- you cause gas tanks to blow up (might be consistent with the sudden loss of everything), or fry the electronic flight control systems and there ain't no mechanical things connecting the stick and the control surfaces.
        Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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        • #94
          Gabriel,

          That was exactly what I was suggesting (half heartedly), tho to 'poke the bear' a little more...

          If the aircraft had been 'compromised' by lightning and the ALT displayed incorrectly because of this then it is still possible that the 'speed over ground' would be small while the actual speed could be high IF the aircraft was falling almost vertically, no?

          Not saying this is likely, just slightly more likely than having a plane that we know the flightpath of disappearing into thin air after one earlier in the year

          VAZ

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          • #95
            Originally posted by vaztr View Post
            it is still possible that the 'speed over ground' would be small while the actual speed could be high IF the aircraft was falling almost vertically, no?
            Yes.

            The scenario of the wrong alt information it too weird though.
            It's like saying that you are watching Tom & Jerry on the TV, then a lightning strikes your antenna, and then the TV doesn't stop working, doesn't start to show just background noise, doesn't keep showing a degraded image of Tom & Jerry, but starts to show The Pink Panther (which is not being broadcast at any time at the moment).

            I will not say impossible, but that the damaged encoded altimeter / transponder started to broadcast a wrong but meaningful information (instead of either a degraded signal of the correct information, meaningless noise, or nothing) is as close as it gets.

            Not saying this is likely, just slightly more likely than having a plane that we know the flightpath of disappearing into thin air after one earlier in the year
            I disagree. If I knew by divine revelation that one of the two cases is the truth, then I pick the AirAisia pilot finding inspiration in the Malaysian pilot over the previous scenario any day.

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            • #96
              From BBC World News, heard at 4:32 UTC

              Indonesian officials say they are sending teams to investigate reports of smoke on an island in the area where AirAsia flight QZ8501 has gone missing.
              AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

              Originally posted by orangehuggy
              the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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              • #97
                There are several active volcanoes in the area. What about flying into volcanic ash?. A weather radar would "see" it as thunderstorms or rain.

                A Former Airdisaster.Com Forum (senior member)....

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by AVION1 View Post
                  There are several active volcanoes in the area. What about flying into volcanic ash?. A weather radar would "see" it as thunderstorms or rain.

                  I would think other aircraft in the area would have reported it - not to mention volcano watchers.

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                  • #99
                    BBC news is reporting that orange and white debris has been seen floating and appears to be aircraft parts (11:30 PM MST).

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                    • 105 NM of last known position, off Kalimantan
                      AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

                      Originally posted by orangehuggy
                      the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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                      • Indonesian news channel are showing these stills

                        AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

                        Originally posted by orangehuggy
                        the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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                        • Bad news

                          from the Strait Times

                          #Indonesia's media reports air force official sighting suspected body, life vest, luggage off Kalimantan
                          AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

                          Originally posted by orangehuggy
                          the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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                          • OFFICIAL: Exit door and life vest have been spotted on the surface
                            AirDisaster.com Forum Member 2004-2008

                            Originally posted by orangehuggy
                            the most dangerous part of a flight is not the take off or landing anymore, its when a flight crew member goes to the toilet

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                            • It was officially confirmed that debris from the flight were found.

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                              • Why not include a self-detaching & self-actuating beacon that floats, on all passenger airliners?

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