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Originally posted by Alessandro View Post140 accidents and 50 of them fatal is rather poor I say, latest was a loss of 4 occupants
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Bad design?
Forgive me if I sound ignorant here. I have seen the result of the cirrus. Every Butt technician, Vaginal Specialist and doggie doctor seems to have one, but what in the design makes it a dangerous aircraft? It seems to be designed like every other new composite pocket rocket out there.
Tim
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Originally posted by AVIATIONFASCINATION View PostForgive me if I sound ignorant here. I have seen the result of the cirrus. Every Butt technician, Vaginal Specialist and doggie doctor seems to have one, but what in the design makes it a dangerous aircraft? It seems to be designed like every other new composite pocket rocket out there.
Tim
P.S. Good to have you back ITS"The real CEO of the 787 project is named Potemkin"
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Originally posted by AVIATIONFASCINATION View PostForgive me if I sound ignorant here. I have seen the result of the cirrus. Every Butt technician, Vaginal Specialist and doggie doctor seems to have one, but what in the design makes it a dangerous aircraft? It seems to be designed like every other new composite pocket rocket out there.
Tim
P.S. Good to have you back ITS
The aircraft is a high performance single engined aircraft. As such it tends to be flown by some pilots that need better skills before transitioning from a C-172 into the Cirrus. Composite material contributes to the aircraft's performance.
In short it has replaced the "Vee" tailed Bonanza as the flying doctor killer.Don
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Originally posted by Dmmoore View PostThe aircraft can not be recovered from some spins. To gain certification, Cirrus installed the BSRB system.
The official word goes on saying that once the BSRB was decided, and once it was noted that the FAA would accept that in lieu of spincertification, they decided not to do the spin certification to avoid certification cost and time.
At least one test pilot commented that spins were made in the Cirrus during test flights, and that the airplane recovered from them with the typical procedures, but that they did not test the whole spin matrix requiered for certification.
That's, of course the official word.
Whatever is it in reality, and while I like the whole-airframe parachute concept (not to the point to put it too high in my priorities unless requiered like in the Cirrus), the fact that a plane used it in lieu of spin certification, in my opinion, sucks.
I'd also like to see the parachutes (in the Cirrus or anywhere else) certified to Vne (so the piolt can, given enough altitude, exhaust the attempt to recover it by flying it before pulling the red handle) and not to a speed that can be legally and normally exceeded even in level cruise flight.
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I too may have a different reaction to the BSRB system if it were deployable under all flight conditions. "But" I contend that the usefulness of a deploy at any time system is still limited to structural failure or an IFR engine failure. Almost all other conditions would be better served by better pilot training.Don
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