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More seats on the same aircraft. More weight as in more bodies, more luggage and then imagine getting all of them out in an emergency. Even past that, apart from O'Leary and Spirit, who else would want to treat passengers like this?Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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sorry brian, you're over-moderating. i posted NO PICTURES or images.
i lost most of my ancestral family in WWII and find nothing wrong with referring to to it.
besides, maybe the assholes who continue to attempt to squeeze more bodies into less space, to make a handful of additional dollars so they can personally buy a 400 foot yacht instead of a 200 foot yacht has to be confronted with whatever it takes to make them stop. the problem is that pax are nothing more than lemmings. whatever the airlines do we willingly comply. perhaps a pre-revolution is in order?
and before any starts, don't gimme that crap about free market. it aint free. we pay for it. and unfortunately air travel has become a necessity. is it not ok to turn a 1 billion dollar profit? is it necessary to push for 1.25 billion at the expense of safety compromise and comfort?
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Originally posted by TeeVee View Postsorry brian, you're over-moderating. i posted NO PICTURES or images.
i lost most of my ancestral family in WWII and find nothing wrong with referring to to it.
besides, maybe the assholes who continue to attempt to squeeze more bodies into less space, to make a handful of additional dollars so they can personally buy a 400 foot yacht instead of a 200 foot yacht has to be confronted with whatever it takes to make them stop. the problem is that pax are nothing more than lemmings. whatever the airlines do we willingly comply. perhaps a pre-revolution is in order?
and before any starts, don't gimme that crap about free market. it aint free. we pay for it. and unfortunately air travel has become a necessity. is it not ok to turn a 1 billion dollar profit? is it necessary to push for 1.25 billion at the expense of safety compromise and comfort?
There are two ways I can handle it. I can either resurrect the original thread and merge it with this one or we can let this one run as it is. Your choice. It will however look a bit odd if we merge the threads as AA has left the picture descriptions but removed the pictures.Last edited by brianw999; 2014-07-20, 13:53.If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !
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Originally posted by TeeVee View Postsorry brian, you're over-moderating. i posted NO PICTURES or images.
i lost most of my ancestral family in WWII and find nothing wrong with referring to to it.
besides, maybe the assholes who continue to attempt to squeeze more bodies into less space, to make a handful of additional dollars so they can personally buy a 400 foot yacht instead of a 200 foot yacht has to be confronted with whatever it takes to make them stop. the problem is that pax are nothing more than lemmings. whatever the airlines do we willingly comply. perhaps a pre-revolution is in order?
and before any starts, don't gimme that crap about free market. it aint free. we pay for it. and unfortunately air travel has become a necessity. is it not ok to turn a 1 billion dollar profit? is it necessary to push for 1.25 billion at the expense of safety compromise and comfort?
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Originally posted by TeeVee View Postsorry brian, you're over-moderating. i posted NO PICTURES or images.
i lost most of my ancestral family in WWII and find nothing wrong with referring to to it.
Originally posted by TeeVee View Postbesides, maybe the assholes who continue to attempt to squeeze more bodies into less space, to make a handful of additional dollars so they can personally buy a 400 foot yacht instead of a 200 foot yacht has to be confronted with whatever it takes to make them stop. the problem is that pax are nothing more than lemmings. whatever the airlines do we willingly comply. perhaps a pre-revolution is in order?
and before any starts, don't gimme that crap about free market. it aint free. we pay for it. and unfortunately air travel has become a necessity. is it not ok to turn a 1 billion dollar profit? is it necessary to push for 1.25 billion at the expense of safety compromise and comfort?
As for these companies - I am in complete agreement with you. Profit before passengers needs to change. The question is, though, who will be willing to make that move first.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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Originally posted by brianw999 View PostSorry Tee Vee, you misunderstand. I wasn't accusing you, the moderation was directed at the post made by AA1818 who posted pictures of nazi concentration camps and dead bodies. Those pictures are missing now so I can only assume that AA took them down while I was moderating the thread. I wouldn't have known that because I didn't refresh the page before posting the deletion.
There are two ways I can handle it. I can either resurrect the original thread and merge it with this one or we can let this one run as it is. Your choice. It will however look a bit odd if we merge the threads as AA has left the picture descriptions but removed the pictures.
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Thanks again, Brian, and sorry that you have to intervene.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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Here's another question - if, say, a present operator wanted to use the seats - what issues would they have to overcome to get it installed on their planes? What regulatory issues run into? Is there any hope that the regulatory bodies will save us?Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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ok brian. understood.
as for the rest, i don't get such wonderful responses from aa all the time regardless of whether i just completed 1,000,000 flown miles with them. often they simply apologize but don't change.
this type of stuff has to be dealt with either by a LARGE rebellion by pax or by (perhaps unfortunately) the government.
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Originally posted by TeeVee View Post
as for the rest, i don't get such wonderful responses from aa all the time regardless of whether i just completed 1,000,000 flown miles with them. often they simply apologize but don't change.
this type of stuff has to be dealt with either by a LARGE rebellion by pax or by (perhaps unfortunately) the government.
2. Which government? This one can't even do their own job. I wouldn't hold my breath. As for passengers choosing, they already are to some extent. People pay premium to fly EK. People loyally fly WN. In your case options are a little limited on the Latin American segments, but domestically only chose AA when they are the best choice. As for a revolution, most passengers want low fares and are willing to do anything for it. They do not care to do the research, to find better options, to chose better. So many want cheap, they don't realize how they cheat themselves. Take baggage fees. Did people bring less? Not really. We cram more into the overheads. Delays, headaches, and more often gate-checking bags. Airlines illogically did this, to "bring fares down,". The consumer demanded it, and got cheated twice.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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Originally posted by AA 1818 View Post2. Which government? This one can't even do their own job.
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Originally posted by ATLcrew View PostProbably the same one that hired the TSA agent that recently asked me for another form of ID in addition to my crew badge, because he "wasn't familiar" with my airline. Mind you, my esteemed employer is pretty well-known, and even if it wasn't, it's the agent's job to know various air carriers, at the very least US-based ones.Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.
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