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    Stowaway survives in gear well.

    According to a news in a local newspapers (in Argentina), a stowaway made yesterday a 5+ hours Hawaiian Airlines flight from San Jose (CA) to Hawaii and survived well enough that has no long lasting consequences.

    In Spanish:
    Un joven viajó escondido en el tren de aterrizaje de un avión y sobrevivió
    http://www.clarin.com/mundo/viajo-escondido-aterrizaje-avion-sobrevivio_0_1124287810.html
    Estuvo oculto en un vuelo de casi cinco horas entre entre California y las islas Hawai.


    Anybody has any more info?
    I'm particularly interested to know:
    - The flight time.
    - The flight altitude.
    - The ambient temperature up there yesterday.
    - In what condition he was found.

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
    Anybody has any more info?
    I'm particularly interested to know:
    - The flight time.
    - The flight altitude.
    - The ambient temperature up there yesterday.
    - In what condition he was found.
    - Why, almost thirteen years after 9/11, people can still climb into an aircraft undetected
    Fixed.

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    • #3
      In English
      Stowaway survives flight from San Jose to Maui in jet's wheel well
      http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-california-stowaway-survives-flight-to-hawaii-wheel-well-20140421,0,1218862.story?track=rss#axzz2zXB84kHA
      A 16-year-old boy survived a harrowing trip halfway across the Pacific Ocean on Sunday after climbing into the wheel well of a Hawaiian Airlines jet flying from San Jose to Maui, emerging unharmed despite freezing temperatures and a lack of oxygen on a flight that reached an altitude of 38,000…

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      • #4
        Media says FL380

        Kid treated and released

        Apparently he's observed at the origin and destination...so some indication he may have rode the wheel well.

        I guess our media is slightly better than those other guys.

        Cue ongoing discussion on the thread of endless parlour talk with no final report on the horizon...
        Les rčgles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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        • #5
          ...and before anyone starts on the hypoxia murdercide issue with Malaysian....

          The Malay incident would have been down to rapid oxygen starvation of a warm body which needs oxygen which does not bode well for oxygen metabolism.
          This latest incident would have been gradual oxygen depletion in a gradually cooling body which has a vastly different effect on oxygen metabolism and allows for the human body to survive for long periods in a state similar to suspended animation. It's why drowning victims in ice cold water can often be resuscitated to a normal state after a considerable amount of time.
          If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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          • #6
            Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
            This latest incident would have been gradual oxygen depletion in a gradually cooling body which has a vastly different effect on oxygen metabolism and allows for the human body to survive for long periods in a state similar to suspended animation. It's why drowning victims in ice cold water can often be resuscitated to a normal state after a considerable amount of time.
            Holy contradictions Batman!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
              Holly contradictions Batman!!!
              The whole complex system is certainly worth discussing...however...the bottom line is pretty stable...

              At 30-something thousand feet a plane load of folks will be largely incapacitated (though not necessarily dead)...and yeah, someone might want to screw with the pressurization system for a few different reasons.

              You know ITS was pretty bold about that secret island, and then he went silent...
              Les rčgles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
                Holy contradictions Batman!!!
                Ice cold water is at 1 deg C or higher and the body loses heat more slowly than exposure to around -60 deg C approximately at 39,000 feet in a sudden decompression.

                As Doctor Nancy Caroline said in her paramedics bible publication "Emergency Care in The Streets"......

                ......"A dead body isn't dead until it's WARM and dead"
                If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
                  Ice cold water is at 1 deg C or higher and the body loses heat more slowly than exposure to around -60 deg C approximately at 39,000 feet in a sudden decompression.

                  As Doctor Nancy Caroline said in her paramedics bible publication "Emergency Care in The Streets"......

                  ......"A dead body isn't dead until it's WARM and dead"
                  Sounds like old Nancy might have had a touch of the Necrophilia .

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                  • #10
                    Brian, If that last post does not warrant a ban for life, nothing does!

                    What a foul mouth little twit! He insults Gabriel's Mother!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BoeingBobby View Post
                      Brian, If that last post does not warrant a ban for life, nothing does!

                      What a foul mouth little twit! He insults Gabriel's Mother!!!
                      Actually those are both posts Gabriel made himself. Thanks for sticking your nose in though .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheKiecker View Post
                        Actually those are both posts Gabriel made himself. Thanks for sticking your nose in though .

                        Funny, I don't see any post by Gabriel, nor have I ever seen a post by him where he uses that kind of foul language.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BoeingBobby View Post
                          Funny, I don't see any post by Gabriel, nor have I ever seen a post by him where he uses that kind of foul language.
                          It was me insulting Asiana when they were blaming Boeing for their stupid crash.

                          The Kiecker took the quotes from me to use as his signature.

                          In "Fuck your mum -Gabriel", the "Gabriel" part is the "credit" to the source, not the destination of the insult.

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                          • #14
                            ...ok people, I know it's tough to parlour talk for 263 pages of wild, baseless speculation riddled with lots of bad facts with no hope of finding an airplane anytime soon, but let's not lose our sense of humour.
                            Les rčgles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
                              It was me insulting Asiana when they were blaming Boeing for their stupid crash.

                              The Kiecker took the quotes from me to use as his signature.

                              In "Fuck your mum -Gabriel", the "Gabriel" part is the "credit" to the source, not the destination of the insult.

                              Then a big SORRY from me!

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