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  • From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-26515165:

    As people flock online to find out about the missing MH370 flight, an eBay seller has sought to profit from the trend by "flipping" the domain name MH370.com.
    ...
    An eBay auction for the domain told potential buyers why bidding could be advantageous: "Buy this domain today and sell it later on for thousands of dollars," it began. "Dozens of companies, families of victims, will want to buy it from you. Pay little money today and make huge profit tomorrow," it continued.
    There's always someone with more greed than decency...

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    • I'm going to take a stab at some kind of slow burning fire - swisair 111 type scenario.
      Takes out the comms, pilots dont fancy a night flight through Vietnam and China without comms, so turn back without knowing its a fire, all seems normal in terms of control initially.
      After coming back over the mainland head down the coast.
      Once the fire is fully established, things very quickly go bad.
      ADCR
      Tongue tied and twisted just an earth bound misfit

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      • Originally posted by AndyToop View Post
        I'm going to take a stab at some kind of slow burning fire - swisair 111 type scenario.
        Takes out the comms, pilots dont fancy a night flight through Vietnam and China without comms, so turn back without knowing its a fire, all seems normal in terms of control initially.
        After coming back over the mainland head down the coast.
        Once the fire is fully established, things very quickly go bad.
        But the crew of Swissair 111 communicated with the ground for quite a while... :-/

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        • Originally posted by Peter Kesternich View Post
          But the crew of Swissair 111 communicated with the ground for quite a while... :-/
          Well yes - but that's because it was their in flight entertainment that was burning. If the slow burning fire's first casualty is for example the link from the VHF comms equipment to the transmitter, then all you know in the cockpit is that you've lost radio and acars.
          ADCR
          Tongue tied and twisted just an earth bound misfit

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          • On the passport front - an article on the BBC mentions that after Air India Express 812 crashed in 2010, 10 passengers were found to have been travelling on stolen or forged passports, so clearly there is a lot of it that goes on and, while certainly my first thoughts were around those, they clearly could just be coincidental.
            Yeah I saw that too. I guess it's not uncommon in that part of the world. There seems to be some movement away from suspecting the two men carrying stolen passports on this flight of foul play or terrorism.

            Interesting article on the cell phones ringing:

            Reports that the cellphones of passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 are ringing — but no one picks up —might have a logical explanation.




            Plane might be hundreds of miles off course while not sending transponder information:

            Missing Malaysia Airlines flight way off course, not sending ID code when it vanished, Malaysian Air Force official tells CNN

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            • Another possible scenario, the GOL crash in Brazil.
              A mid-air collision with another aircraft, disabling communication and flight controls in the 777 and the other aircraft landed with just scratches in another airport.
              A Former Airdisaster.Com Forum (senior member)....

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              • Originally posted by AVION1 View Post
                Another possible scenario, the GOL crash in Brazil.
                A mid-air collision with another aircraft, disabling communication and flight controls in the 777 and the other aircraft landed with just scratches in another airport.
                Except the 777 was a 737 and it was the embraer that lost comms - and we're also missing another plane landing with damage (or vanishing)
                ADCR
                Tongue tied and twisted just an earth bound misfit

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                • Originally posted by AVION1 View Post
                  Another possible scenario, the GOL crash in Brazil.
                  A mid-air collision with another aircraft, disabling communication and flight controls in the 777 and the other aircraft landed with just scratches in another airport.
                  But primary radar should have seen the two echos merging.

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                  • Not to mention that either the other pilot might just have noticed hitting a 777 and thought to say something on landing, or else there'd be two planes missing...

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                    • Originally posted by sjwk View Post
                      Not to mention that either the other pilot might just have noticed hitting a 777 and thought to say something on landing, or else there'd be two planes missing...
                      If the other aircraft was military and not supposed to be there then there could be a bit of cover-up going on. Remember this is essentially a Chinese tragedy and its neigbours might not want to own up to such a poweful country if they can find a way of wiggling out.

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                      • very very mysterious, indeed, this case. especially with this new military radar information (not asking here why the non-identified aircraft wasn't scrambled by malaysian fighter jets) ...


                        so if the aircraft really turned back like shown/assumed on this map:




                        ... and also assuming it went on like depicted ...
                        ... and also assuming the crew was able to stear the aircraft but was unable or unwilling to communicate ...

                        - if they were unable to communicate due to technical problems but still in control of the aircraft: wouldn't they have flown back to KL or a similar airport in order to attempt an emergency landing?
                        - if they were unwilling to communicate: where would and could they have been continuing to from the moment of last radar sightings? are there any 'useful' airports around? are there any 'useful' airports in range where one might wanted to hijack the aircraft to? this either for a public landing (just get back to contact slightly before landing, enforcing a landing) or a secret landing to get hold of the plane / some special cargo (?) / some special passenger(s)???

                        they may have crashed on the way - the may have landed somewhere?

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                        • concering the cell-phones:

                          wouldn't it make sense that the authorities would call and trace any available passenger cell-phone? even if they do not believe in this possibility: better then not trying, I'd say. Though modern 'smart'phone would be out of battery by now, I fear ...

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                          • Originally posted by Brainsys View Post
                            If the other aircraft was military and not supposed to be there then there could be a bit of cover-up going on. Remember this is essentially a Chinese tragedy and its neigbours might not want to own up to such a poweful country if they can find a way of wiggling out.
                            The other aircraft would still have been visible on radar, and even cultures concerned about "losing face" know that in this day and age, there is no wiggling out of something like that. Trying to wiggle out and getting caught would be even worse.

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                            • Originally posted by Peter Kesternich View Post
                              The other aircraft would still have been visible on radar, and even cultures concerned about "losing face" know that in this day and age, there is no wiggling out of something like that. Trying to wiggle out and getting caught would be even worse.
                              You are assuming a degree of rationality that is not always forthcoming. If the other craft had stealth capability and we are talking at the limits of radar coverage then maybe.

                              Except I agree it is unlikely. But then so is everything else so far.

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                              • Originally posted by B757300 View Post
                                Would you want to announce to the world that you had lost a 777 with 239 people on board until you were sure it was missing? They probably notified their government very quickly. Telling the media before they knew anything certain would be pointless.
                                Good job by you . This thread is still rolling , and nothing is CERTAIN .

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