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Originally posted by B757300 View PostThe first units to respond will be those at the airport, but if additional help is needed, then yes, they'd call in units from the city proper. No airport has the emergency personnel to handle 300+ casualties and will require additional boots on the ground.
I was born just a few months after this horrifying accident took place:
...and, to show that horror accidents also take place on ordinary highways, just a few months after I was born:
Los Alfaques.
583 dead bodies within just one single day at Los Rodeos... So, can we ask someone of the Los Rodeos fire department, are there jp members?
Or, very much easier, let us ask Brian. Brian, whom would you call in such a case?
PS: I remember a German TV film about Los Alfaques, imagine a relatively small hall where 60 dead bodies wait for identification. And then, imagine 3 other halls of that size. You don't want to be someone who's duty is identification...The German long haul is alive, 65 years and still kicking.
The Gold Member in the 747 club, 50 years since the first LH 747.
And constantly advanced, 744 and 748 /w upper and lower EICAS.
This is Lohausen International airport speaking, echo delta delta lima.
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Just looking at the flight info on flightaware, the airspeed around 300ft seems too low. I am wondering if it was in a stall around that height.
11:26 37.5900 -122.3070 297° West 169 194 1,400 -1,380 FlightAware 11:27 37.5988 -122.3270 299° West 145 167 800 -1,380 FlightAware 11:27 37.6016 -122.3340 297° West 141 162 600 -1,320 FlightAware 11:27 37.6045 -122.3410 298° West 134 154 400 -900 FlightAware 11:27 37.6073 -122.3480 297° West 123 142 300 -840 FlightAware 11:27 37.6103 -122.3550 298° West 109 125 100 -120 FlightAware 11:28 37.6170 -122.3740 294° West 85 98 200 120 FlightAware
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I'm Disturbed Too
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Stall?
Originally posted by saupatel View PostJust looking at the flight info on flightaware, the airspeed around 300ft seems too low. I am wondering if it was in a stall around that height.
11:26 37.5900 -122.3070 297° West 169 194 1,400 -1,380 FlightAware 11:27 37.5988 -122.3270 299° West 145 167 800 -1,380 FlightAware 11:27 37.6016 -122.3340 297° West 141 162 600 -1,320 FlightAware 11:27 37.6045 -122.3410 298° West 134 154 400 -900 FlightAware 11:27 37.6073 -122.3480 297° West 123 142 300 -840 FlightAware 11:27 37.6103 -122.3550 298° West 109 125 100 -120 FlightAware 11:28 37.6170 -122.3740 294° West 85 98 200 120 FlightAware
I'm no pilot but the technicalities of flight seem very interesting. Unfortunately I am uncertain as to what all the numbers in the table refer to. Can you explain for the layman, please? Also, what speed would one reasonably expect on a full passenger/part fuel load 200ER at 300 feet approaching runway, please?
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Originally posted by kris View PostPosition of engine #2 would suggest it was operating with significant thrust - no fuel problems (at least with this engine)?
Right hand wing tip collapsed - ground strike maybe?
And the right side of the plane exhibits more damage.
So it very well could be that it hit with a right bank.
This would be consistent (not a proof of) a stall, since the lateral stability and contollability are seriously compromised in a stall.
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Originally posted by Jingogunner View PostHello Mr Patel,
I'm no pilot but the technicalities of flight seem very interesting. Unfortunately I am uncertain as to what all the numbers in the table refer to. Can you explain for the layman, please? Also, what speed would one reasonably expect on a full passenger/part fuel load 200ER at 300 feet approaching runway, please?
Geographic crooordinates - - ground track (direction) - grounspeed - airspeed - altitude - vertical speed.
Typical approach speed can be in the order of 150kts. Typical stall speed would be in the order of 110kts.
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