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  • Originally posted by Peter Kesternich View Post
    May I ask who you have in mind for the job? Since this drama is playing out in international waters, it will be difficult to find the right agency.
    In fact it's quite clear:

    Because the crash is assumed to have happened in international waters, Malaysia is in charge of the investigation according to ICAO annex 13.

    Because the crash is assumed to have happened in Australia's SAR zone, Australia is in charge of the SAR operation.

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    • Originally posted by sjwk View Post
      Maybe so, but I suspect a million other people would be sending in their own 'proof' - how do they know which one to follow up on?
      All the programmers in ALL the world can't devise a triage program that filters things that are obviously absurd?

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      • Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
        In fact it's quite clear:

        Because the crash is assumed to have happened in international waters, Malaysia is in charge of the investigation according to ICAO annex 13.

        Because the crash is assumed to have happened in Australia's SAR zone, Australia is in charge of the SAR operation.
        I suspected as much, Gabriel

        My point in response to
        Originally posted by vaztr View Post
        (...)Would ONE AGENCY please take control of this situation - it'd be a hell of a lot easier on all involved(...)
        is, however, that it will be difficult to find a single agency that has a) jurisdiction, b) the technical and organizational expertise, AND c) the trust and confidence of all interested parties.

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        • CNN reported A lady claimed she saw the burning plan directly above where she sailed, but was too afraid to report it at that time. This would be then the second witness I think saying they saw the plane going down in flames. Technically, the location is known, the trajectory is known or can be easily determined by the data, so it would be a piece of cake for investigators to locate the final resting place. Thing is... how plausible is this witness?

          A Plane goes missing, and then no technology in the world can find it. It is hard to resist the notion that maybe the plane was shot down, and the rest is a cover-up to avoid the aftermath. But what is the truth?

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          • Originally posted by starchyme View Post
            It is hard to resist the notion that maybe the plane was shot down, and the rest is a cover-up to avoid the aftermath.
            Let's just say that I've done some things harder than resist this notion.

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            • Coverup part is easy to believe. What is being covered up is another question. There could have been a critical security failure in a country that doesn't want the black mark on it.

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              • Originally posted by ATFS_Crash
                It's hard to resist the notion that you are a fifth columnist and/or a head case.
                What an idiotic statement.

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                • Now now children....play nicely.
                  If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                  • Latest gossip:

                    They are back to considering the captain "the prime suspect". Apparently his profile includes no future plans and that 'forensic computer folks' recovered some erased practice landings on his simulator that perhaps involved a 777 and a remote airport in a remote country...

                    I find it hard to swallow that the plane would be in-tact and on the ground...but due to a total lack of any debris whatsoever at all???

                    ...a soft landing and in-tact sinking where the water leaked in with no breakup....is that less unlikely than having no debris whatsoever?
                    Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                    • The pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane which disappeared in March with 239 people on board had plotted a flight path to a remote island far into the southern Indian Ocean where the search is now focused, investigators have discovered.

                      The route, which was deleted before MH370 disappeared on March 8, was made on a home flight simulator machine used for practice by its captain, Zaharie Shah. Its discovery has intensified suspicion that he deliberately hijacked his own plane and diverted it from its approved flight path to Beijing.

                      More than three months have now passed since the flight disappeared in what has become one of the great mysteries of modern aviation. And despite a lack of any hard evidence, suspicion of Capt Zaharie's involvement has grown as investigators have gradually eliminated other potential suspects and causes of its disappearance.

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                      Sources close to the investigation confirmed to The Telegraph on Sunday that a deleted flight path had been recovered from Capt Zaharie's simulator which had been used to practice landing an aircraft on a small runway on an unnamed island in the far southern Indian Ocean.

                      The discovery leaves Capt Zaharie as the prime suspect in a crime which cannot yet be proven to have been committed – and Malaysian police have been careful in their public comments to stress that all leads are still being investigated and no conclusions have been reached.

                      Detectives investigating the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 three months ago discover new evidence which has renewed suspicions about its pilot


                      For whatever it's worth.

                      Some are saying the island is Île Amsterdam.

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                      • A look on GoogleEarth reveals Ile Amsterdam to be a barren lump of rock. The closest thing resembling a runway is a 440 foot long strip of dirt. If MH 370 did land there I would be amazed that anyone could survive. There are 30 non permanent residents involved in research.
                        If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                        • Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
                          A look on GoogleEarth reveals Ile Amsterdam to be a barren lump of rock. The closest thing resembling a runway is a 440 foot long strip of dirt.
                          Based on the government edited data from which Google earth works...
                          Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                          • Originally posted by 3WE View Post
                            Based on the government edited data from which Google earth works...
                            Yah it was the Gubmint . Which one exactly ?

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                            • Originally posted by TheKiecker View Post
                              Yah it was the Gubmint . Which one exactly ?
                              How do you know it was just one?
                              Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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                              • Originally posted by B757300 View Post
                                The pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane which disappeared in March with 239 people on board had plotted a flight path to a remote island far into the southern Indian Ocean where the search is now focused, investigators have discovered.

                                The route, which was deleted before MH370 disappeared on March 8, was made on a home flight simulator machine used for practice by its captain, Zaharie Shah. Its discovery has intensified suspicion that he deliberately hijacked his own plane and diverted it from its approved flight path to Beijing.
                                What possible motive would he have to fly to a remote island and set down there? At least the murdercide theory has a plausible motive. Also, how is a 777 going to land on a tiny island airstrip even in a simulation? DItching maybe, but in the real world I wonder about that...

                                I wonder if the forensics recovered the actual sim session(s).

                                I also wonder if this isn't total bollocks.

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