Old 06-25-2012, 08:04 PM   #1
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Default Drones Vulnerable To Terrorist Hijacking

Several on this forum, mostly trolls; claimed that this is not possible, despite my warnings to the contrary.

It seems that in some cases it wouldn’t even take a nation’s military to compromise UAVs, it seems in some cases that the technology is so vulnerable that even terrorists with modest funds and modest technology could be capable of jamming and/or spoofing UAV signals.

Military and civilian drones could be hacked and used by a hostile military/government and/or terrorists.

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EXCLUSIVE: Drones vulnerable to terrorist hijacking, researchers say

....“Spoofing a GPS receiver on a UAV is just another way of hijacking a plane,” Humphreys told Fox News.

In other words, with the right equipment, anyone can take control of a GPS-guided drone and make it do anything they want it to.

“Spoofing” is a relatively new concern in the world of GPS navigation. Until now, the main problem has been GPS jammers, readily available over the Internet, which people use to, for example, hide illicit use of a GPS-tracked company van. It’s also believed Iran brought down that U.S. spy drone last December by jamming its GPS, forcing it into an automatic landing mode after it lost its bearings.

'Spoofing a GPS receiver on a UAV is just another way of hijacking a plane.'

- University of Texas Radio Navigation Laboratory researcher Todd Humphreys

While jammers can cause problems by muddling GPS signals, spoofers are a giant leap forward in technology; they can actually manipulate navigation computers with false information that looks real. With his device -- what Humphreys calls the most advanced spoofer ever built (at a cost of just $1,000) -- he infiltrates the GPS system of the drone with a signal more powerful than the one coming down from the satellites orbiting high above the earth.

Initially, his signal matches that of the GPS system so the drone thinks nothing is amiss. That’s when he attacks -- sending his own commands to the onboard computer, putting the drone at his beck and call....
Source and full story.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/...#ixzz1ypteBPHQ

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(Iran seems to allege that they jammed or hacked a US spy drone to bring it down, then they seem to allege that they were able to download the data. US officials denied the Iranian claims. I don’t trust Iranian or US officials; especially under Obama.)

Iran 'hacks software of US spy drone'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...spy-drone.html

US Military Drone Fleet Had Virus
http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=53184

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Iraqi insurgents hacked US UAV
http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=49160

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Old 06-26-2012, 12:59 PM   #2
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Several on this forum, mostly trolls; claimed that this is not possible, despite my warnings to the contrary.

It seems that in some cases it wouldn’t even take a nation’s military to compromise UAVs, it seems in some cases that the technology is so vulnerable that even terrorists with modest funds and modest technology could be capable of jamming and/or spoofing UAV signals.

Military and civilian drones could be hacked and used by a hostile military/government and/or terrorists.



Source and full story.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/...#ixzz1ypteBPHQ

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(Iran seems to allege that they jammed or hacked a US spy drone to bring it down, then they seem to allege that they were able to download the data. US officials denied the Iranian claims. I don’t trust Iranian or US officials; especially under Obama.)

Iran 'hacks software of US spy drone'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...spy-drone.html

US Military Drone Fleet Had Virus
http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=53184

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Iraqi insurgents hacked US UAV
http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=49160

Flying By Remote
http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=48542
Y'know Uncle, you really need a hobby don't you. I mean scouring the web looking for proof to support your claims for the past 2 years? Were you the youngest child of 5 that used to get beaten up by your older siblings?

So, lets see - the Iranians (yeah, they wouldn't have anything to gain from lying would they - after all they are only enriching Uranium for peaceful purposes!) have managed to decode from the basic navigational memory of the GPS that the UAV was here and there. Surely far more telling would be the type and kind of intel info it was picking up. that to me would tell me that the thing truly had been hacked. My claim (just that of a humble troll) still stands - the drone wasn't controlled by the iranians (if so why not land the damn thing instead of crashing it) the drone lost the GPS signal circled and ran out of juice.

This UAV that Prof Humphreys has claimed to have controlled seem to be small and of limited range and altitude. Large scale UAV's cruise and operate at altitudes up to 50,000 feet. In which case my question to you is how did the Iranian's detect the UAV given the RQ-170 has a VLO design (steathy if you will)? Then what size transmitter would they need to spoof the UAV and how was the UAV tracked?

But the biggest flaw in your arguement is exposed by Faux new's own expert who said:

"Unlike military UAVs, which use an encrypted GPS system, most drones that will fly over the U.S. will rely on civilian GPS, which is not encrypted and wide open to infiltration. Humphreys warns it is crucial that the government address this vulnerability before it allows unmanned aerial vehicles broad access to U.S. airspace." (sorry, not strictly a quote - I added the underlining, embolding and italicised font for uncle's benefit)


Even if everything you say is correct (and that would be a pretty long bow to draw), don't you think by now that the US would have sewn up all the security holes? (or would that only have happened under a Republican government LOL) Pretty much as soon as it was realised that AlQ were intercepting the video signals being downloaded from the small tactical UAV's the army replaced them with encrypted systems. These larger systems are far more strategically important - I'm dead sure they would be ensuring that these UAV's or RPV's (please don't call them drones - you are revealing your ignorance) remain secure into the future.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:19 PM   #3
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look Syd, stop messing with him. it's not his fault. if Fox (faux) news reported this, it absolutely MUST be true, correct, and beyond questioning.

jeez man, don't you know anything?!?!
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