Old 06-21-2012, 10:36 PM   #1
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I came across this video of an ANA 767 landing at Narita. The text is in Japanese, but the video speaks for itself.

Anyone with a maintenance background out there: Do you think the crinkle in the fuselage can be repaired or is the airplane a writeoff? I don't know if the keelbeam is bent or it just flexed. Looks nasty either way.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:51 PM   #2
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Without a detailed inspection it is hard to say if this damage is repairable. But in any case a repair or scrap decision will come down to cost analysis. I've seen some pretty badly damaged aircraft returned to flight status.
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Thread already exists:

http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?t=54132
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:57 PM   #4
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Thanks Highkeas. We'll see what happens.

I see now that this incident was covered in another thread. I looked through briefly but didn't see the thread that was started previously. Guess that's what I get for staying up all night..
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:57 PM   #5
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Man that looked like one of my flight sim landings when Im texting at the same time lol
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:00 AM   #6
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Add about three more modulations or bounces via the compression and rebound of the struts and that is exactly what I saw an R-A3 do down in Townsville in the 60's. It was then called porpoising though obviously not done on purpose. Back in the air the next day but of course it did not have that deformed mid-section.

I suppose you must pull out the sharp pencil and factor all of the things from date of manufacture, number of cycles, fuel economy and current market before writing a plane off for parts.

I have seen a few Beavers that were in horrid shape that brought a tidy sum with the demand for Alaskan bush planes on the rise.

Highkeas was right on the mark.
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How does that sort of thing happen?

I would think that "the drill" is to keep the nose up regardless of a bounce..

Answer #1 is that this sort of thing does not happen that often.

Still, it seems to happen sometimes.

Is it an aircraft tendency or is it a driver tendency- where they think they can shove the nose over to prevent the subsequent climb?

I guess that's my real question- if you really drill the main gear, can you- with "typical classic" control inputs- keep the plane in a healthy attitude where you will not drill the nose gear- or does the plane have a nasty pitch-down that requires some pretty critical control inputs to manage?
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:25 PM   #8
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How does that sort of thing happen?

From another website, the comments of a pilot who landed just prior:


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Wasn't as simple as that. Landed at NRT around the same time. Probably just before the aircraft concerned.

Winds observed at 1000 ft agl were 240/58-72 kts, dropping down to 230/48 kts steady at 500 ft. And then there was a +/- 15 kts WS reported. On my observation it was more like +/- 20 kts windshear!

And the turbulence was huge. Moderate to moderate/severe turbulence REPORTED by 4 airplane before me from 500 ft to touchdown. I observed Moderate/Severe all the way down from 500 ft to touchdown.
And BTW the winds reported on ground were 220 to 250 at 28 gusting 44 kts. That's a direct crosswind for the runway in use-16R.
And the winds were spot on!

Airport should have been temporarily closed
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