Emirates 777 crash-landed in Dubai

[Gabriel]

And just who would you blame then, Boeing?

Go-Around procedure:

GO AROUND THRUST! (TOGA didn't work? PUSH THEM UP MANUALLY)

Exactly. I don't know why these guys are counting the delay since the point the flap lever was moved to the 20 position.

At :19 the "long landing" warning sounded.
At :23 the plane was airborne again in an attempt to go around.

The decision to go around, and the first action (to click the TOGA switch or to advance the throttles manually) was taken somewhere between :10 and :23.

That means at least 12 into a go around until the thrust levers were moved forward from idle.

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[3WE]

And just who would you blame then, Boeing?

Go-Around procedure:

GO AROUND THRUST! (TOGA didn't work? PUSH THEM UP MANUALLY)

[*****]

PF calls for FLAPS 20

PM calls out (after looking at the VSI and the altimeter showing a climb) "POSITIVE RATE"

PF calls for "GEAR UP"

400' AGL PF calls for "LNAV"

1000' AGL PF calls for "VNAV"

[*****]You forgot "Pull up firmly; however, not_relentlessly nor without attention to AOA, attitude, stall warnings, speed and altitude"

[Gabriel]

[*****]You forgot "Pull up firmly; however, not_relentlessly nor without attention to AOA, attitude, stall warnings, speed and altitude"

Actually...., you may want an initial pull-up to arrest the descent, but the speed will quickly start to raise above trim speed which will shoot (and overshoot) the nose up, plus the nose up effect of the undeslung engines going from about idle to about warp speed. You may soon need to push down to prevent the nose from going way up.

[3WE]

Actually...., you may want an initial pull-up to arrest the descent, but the speed will quickly start to raise above trim speed which will shoot (and overshoot) the nose up, plus the nose up effect of the undeslung engines going from about idle to about warp speed. You may soon need to push down to prevent the nose from going way up.

Yes...

Please consider yourself to have received a harsh CRJ/Airbus pilot razz for missing the humour, and elabourating without acknowledging that I did say "nor without attention to AOA, attitude, stall warnings, speed and attitude"- which pretty much covers what you said.

By the way, for a pilot with super genius airmanship skills, the attitudes selected and adjusted and trimmed will prevent the speed gain and adjust for the effect of underslung engines without so much as a knot of variation from the target airspeeds...so there! (Or maybe they just click the buttons but instead actually monitor stuff).

[Gabriel]

By the way, for a pilot with super genius airmanship skills, the attitudes selected and adjusted and trimmed will prevent the speed gain and adjust for the effect of underslung engines without so much as a knot of variation from the target airspeeds...so there!

Yes, but that requires a pilot with super genius airmanship skills (or with a heck of MSFS experience)

[BoeingBobby]

Scroll down to the go-around procedure and diagram. http://www.theairlinepilots.com/foru...procedures.pdf

[Evan]

Scroll down to the go-around procedure and diagram. http://www.theairlinepilots.com/foru...procedures.pdf

Verify Go-Around Attitude and Thrust Increase

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Both pilots

[BoeingBobby]

Verify Go-Around Attitude and Thrust Increase

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Both pilots

I read it a few times but I could not find the part about waiting 12 seconds to make sure the thrust levers had come up!