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  • 8-hours bottle to throttle.

    I have no idea what's in the Alaska airlines ops manual nor what the FCOM for the particular model of aircraft says, but I think this guy may have violated a broadly-repeated fundamental rule of thumb from the world of cowboy aviation.

    Pilot was selected for random drug and alcohol testing after two Alaska Airlines flights in 2014 and allegedly tested above the legal limit


    Alaska Airlines pilot arrested for allegedly flying planes drunk



    LOS ANGELES -- Federal authorities have arrested a former Alaska Airlines captain on federal charges of piloting a plane while intoxicated.
    David Hans Arntson, 60, was arrested Wednesday morning and arraigned in federal court in Los Angeles, according to a Department of Justice news release. He is a resident of Newport Beach, California.
    According to the criminal complaint filed Tuesday, Arntson was the pilot of two Alaska Airlines flights on in June 2014, in which he was under the influence. The first flight was from San Diego International Airport to Portland, Oregon. He then flew a plane from Portland, Oregon, to John Wayne Airport in Orange County.
    Arntson was selected for random drug and alcohol testing by Alaska Airlines at at John Wayne Airport after landing. He had a blood alcohol concentration of 0.134 percent and 0.142 percent, according to the DOJ. After Alaska Airlines received the test results it removed Arntson from all safety-sensitive duties.
    The legal limit for operating a commercial plane is a blood alcohol content of 0.10 percent or higher.
    Arntson's co-pilot on the two flights remembered seeing the drug tester when the plane landed at John Wayne Airport, according to the complaint.
    The co-pilot also recalled Arntson saying "I bet it's for me."
    Following the incident, Arntson retired from Alaska Airlines.
    Arntson was released on a $25,000 bond and was ordered to appear for an arraignment on February 10.
    The charge of operating a common carrier while under the influence of alcohol or drugs carries a statutory maximum penalty of 15 years in federal prison.
    Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

  • #2
    No problem. He will take the "or higher" option and call himself compliant.

    The legal limit for operating a commercial plane is a blood alcohol content of 0.10 percent or higher.

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    • #3
      The legal limit for operating a commercial plane is a blood alcohol content of 0.10 percent or higher.
      That's a pretty big typo.

      Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR)
      91.17
      The use of alcohol and drugs by pilots is regulated
      by FAR 91.17. Among other provisions, this
      regulation states that no person may operate or
      attempt to operate an aircraft:
      • within 8 hours of having consumed alcohol
      • while under the influence of alcohol
      • with a blood alcohol content of 0.04% or greater
      • while using any drug that adversely affects safety
      In other words, with a BAC of .134%, after a 3 hour flight, for a hypothetical guy around 180lbs he must have slammed 10-12 drinks before reporting for duty. That's nuts, he must have been trashed.

      Use the blood alcohol level chart to estimate how many drinks it takes to put your blood alcohol concentration (BAC) above the legal limit.

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      • #4
        Or he had a decent sized 'hip flask' in the cockpit, once the FD is engaged there isn't a lot to do at the pointy end!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by vaztr View Post
          ...once the FD is engaged there isn't a lot to do at the pointy end!
          You anger me! According to some professional forumites, there are many good alternatives to drinking and boredom in the cockpit.

          -Crossword puzzles
          -Sight seeing
          -FA flirtation
          -Smartphone game apps!
          -Humorous PA cockpit announcements
          Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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          • #6
            Also pulling up relentlessly for no particular reason!

            And for those that have seen the movie "Air America", coloring.
            Be alert! America needs more lerts.

            Eric Law

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            • #7
              Originally posted by vaztr View Post
              Or he had a decent sized 'hip flask' in the cockpit, once the FD is engaged there isn't a lot to do at the pointy end!
              Well, after the FD is engaged, the pilot hopefully will still be hand-flying the plane and hopefully following the FD commands, at least until the AP is engaged.

              --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
              --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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              • #8
                Originally posted by vaztr View Post
                Or he had a decent sized 'hip flask' in the cockpit, once the FD is engaged there isn't a lot to do at the pointy end!
                ....Until the FD is disengaged in order to land. Probably the most important time to require a sober PIC. ,
                If it 'ain't broken........ Don't try to mend it !

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                • #9
                  And 3WE don't forget sleeping (or getting into a debate over airline policies or whateva their excuse was while they past the airport and flew on for an hour - I forget the airline/flight) - tho having a nap might be how you feel if you've had a few!!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by brianw999 View Post
                    ....Until the FD is disengaged in order to land. Probably the most important time to require a sober PIC. ,
                    Here we go again... The FD is not disengaged in order to land. Airplanes typically land with the FD engaged, as they takeóff with the FD engaged since before brakes release. With the FD engaged, the plane can be flown manually or in AP.

                    --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
                    --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vaztr View Post
                      And 3WE don't forget sleeping (or getting into a debate over airline policies or whateva their excuse was while they past the airport and flew on for an hour - I forget the airline/flight) - tho having a nap might be how you feel if you've had a few!!!
                      Indeed.

                      And Gabriel- Time for an agricultal version from SMRFS and institute of organic fertililizer.

                      A flight director shows the pilots a very specific target attitude via "needles" on the "attitude indicator"

                      The pilot is supposed to manually control the plane to that target.
                      Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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