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  • #76
    Actually, I agree with the second statement. These incidents (taking off with less runway margin than supped by the performance calculations) happen much more often than they should. Either due to taking off from the wrong point, for having entered the wrong weight, for having the airplane misconfigured (flaps), or other reasons.

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    • #77
      ...but they don't often slice open a new outflow valve on the way out.

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      • #78
        part of this problem is aviation's absolute OBSESSION with acronyms and short hand. for fuck's sake! the entire world manages to work just fine without acronyms and shorthand for EVERYTHING. Aviation is so screwed up they even use the same acronyms to mean two different things, as in the error in waypoints made by some crew in south america once upon a time...

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        • #79
          Originally posted by TeeVee View Post
          part of this problem is aviation's absolute OBSESSION with acronyms and short hand. for fuck's sake! the entire world manages to work just fine without acronyms and shorthand for EVERYTHING. Aviation is so screwed up they even use the same acronyms to mean two different things, as in the error in waypoints made by some crew in south america once upon a time...
          Thank you!

          Of course you guys and your Latin crap and some of the ways things can get turned around in a court room...
          Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by 3WE View Post
            Thank you!

            Of course you guys and your Latin crap and some of the ways things can get turned around in a court room...
            A priori and ad referendum of what TeeVee may say ipso facto, prima facie I agree.

            --- Judge what is said by the merits of what is said, not by the credentials of who said it. ---
            --- Defend what you say with arguments, not by imposing your credentials ---

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Gabriel View Post
              A priori and ad referendum of what TeeVee may say inso facto, prima facie I agree.
              ...and with regard to circuit breaker procedures I say it's the classic Ergo Hoc Propter Hoc fallacy...you gotta fly the damn plane...always!
              Les règles de l'aviation de base découragent de longues périodes de dur tirer vers le haut.

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