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Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum Today, 06:14 AM
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Posted By Gabriel
Concur. Sort of concur. Again...

Concur.


Sort of concur.


Again here.

You are supposing that the fact that the pilots knew the procedures would mean that they attempt to apply it first and that they do correctly so then.
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 11:43 PM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
On the other hand, I found myself several times...

On the other hand, I found myself several times landing with the carb heat on. I was not good at procedures discipline. Part of the problem with the basic training that I mentioned before. Reading...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 10:39 PM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
True. The current 172, vs the ones I've ever...

True. The current 172, vs the ones I've ever flown (or the 152 or the Tomahawks that I've ever flown for the matter), come with IO-xxx engines, the I meaning injection, no carburetor, so carburetor...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 08:30 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,201
Posted By Gabriel
And what I say is that one can work without the...

And what I say is that one can work without the other, albeit not as reliably. And if this is true, then there must be some sort of separation between them, otherwise it would be simply impossible to...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 07:49 PM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
So, if you want to know my deep-level diagnosis,...

So, if you want to know my deep-level diagnosis, here it is:
1- Basic training is flawed, from zero hour. We can't wait until a pilot reaches an airline to teach him good stick and rudder skills and...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 07:31 PM
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Posted By Gabriel
Here I disagree. Airmanship can work without...

Here I disagree.
Airmanship can work without procedures, but is not reliable.
And procedures need some airmanship, but sometimes very little.

As an example, the AF crew could have followed the...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 06:56 PM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
You really think so? Who said that? ...

You really think so?


Who said that?

You need both. But without airmanship there is no procedure.
What we are seeing in many accidents (Pinnacle, AF, Colgan, Asiana, Turkish) is NOT ONLY a...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 06:44 PM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
Having the slightest interest in aviation in...

Having the slightest interest in aviation in general is part of building airmanship.

If you and me know (or at least strongly guess) that the right procedure, in a Piper Cub or a Concorde, in a...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 06:36 PM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
Evan, you are making a huge assumption, that the...

Evan, you are making a huge assumption, that the pilots understood the situation, recognized under which category it falled, and decided that the right procedure for it in this advanced cockpit must...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 04:25 PM
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Posted By Gabriel
Evan, for God's sake, and for the last time: The...

Evan, for God's sake, and for the last time: The correct procedure was to get the hell out of there. In any type. The fine print of how to perform that could be slightly different in different types,...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 04:13 AM
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Posted By Gabriel
Not, because he will not pass the checkride....

Not, because he will not pass the checkride. You've just said it.

But I agree. I remember that I've commented here the article in the same obscure magazine, that was titled "The hours that count"....
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-25-2015, 02:01 AM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
I did and I do: I strongly disagree. For...

I did and I do: I strongly disagree.


For "automated flight deck variance type training and monitoring requirements", I don't. My guess is that any type requires disengaging the AP during a...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-24-2015, 06:32 AM
Replies: 374
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Posted By Gabriel
Yes, but to avoid an obstacle one might turn left...

Yes, but to avoid an obstacle one might turn left and the other right. Or if the light starts to change at a time where braking before crossing would be difficult one driver must accelerate at risk...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 10:40 PM
Replies: 374
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Posted By Gabriel
:-D:lol::-D:lol::-D:lol::-D:lol: Think all...

:-D:lol::-D:lol::-D:lol::-D:lol:

Think all you want. Then read the AF report.
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 03:17 PM
Replies: 374
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Posted By Gabriel
Yes, that was clear for me. I was just explaining...

Yes, that was clear for me. I was just explaining the how to reinforce that same concept. I thought that, while I know you have it clear, your explanation might have mislead someone to believe...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 03:07 PM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
Evan, I am not argueing against that. I agree....

Evan, I am not argueing against that. I agree. But just 2 comments.

You have been mentioning the pilots "solid" stick and rudder skils. Do you have any proof? No, Having Xxxxxx hours in X, Y and Z...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 04:41 AM
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Posted By Gabriel
Just to clarify, even holding the button for 40...

Just to clarify, even holding the button for 40 seconds doesn't ensure that you have deactivated the other stick. The design assumes that only on priority button is held down at a time.

As I...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 04:16 AM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
This philosophical beauty was already taking...

This philosophical beauty was already taking place in the original thread (as it happens in every thread where there is a "interesting" accident).

But it's Brian's call whether to merge both...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 04:07 AM
Replies: 68
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Posted By Gabriel
My position is twofold: - This accident...

My position is twofold:

- This accident would not have happened had the pilots correctly followed the procedures.
- This accident would not have happened have the pilots correctly used solid...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 03:55 AM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,201
Posted By Gabriel
Just for the record, excerpts of a discussion...

Just for the record, excerpts of a discussion that took place somewhere else in some obscure internet forum regarding the same accident than in this thread.

Quizz: Who is "User 1"?
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-23-2015, 01:58 AM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
I don't think so. If I'm not mistaken...

I don't think so.


If I'm not mistaken ,the two inputs are algebraically added. Contrary inputs of the exact same magnitude would cancel each other. Contrary inputs of different magnitude, the...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-22-2015, 04:19 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,201
Posted By Gabriel
Well, THAT would have been airmanship. Not...

Well, THAT would have been airmanship. Not sitting there watching the AP lose the fight with mother nature, and when it quits and disconnects, sitting there watching Newton fly the plane.
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-22-2015, 04:18 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,201
Posted By Gabriel
Brian, There was a thread already open for...

Brian,

There was a thread already open for his accident, and yesterday I posted an update with the final report and some comment (notoriously contrary to Evan's comments that these pilots used...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-22-2015, 05:30 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 8,137
Posted By Gabriel
Final report out. What is clear is that the...

Final report out. What is clear is that the authorities of Pakistan's CAA today are not only different from those in 2012, but they are in opposite political sides, and they don't go along well with...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-22-2015, 04:42 AM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
I can't f***ing believe it. Are we reading news...

I can't f***ing believe it. Are we reading news reports of Air Asia or Air France?
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-21-2015, 04:39 PM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
Yes, but try to escape from a CFIT with the CG...

Yes, but try to escape from a CFIT with the CG towards the forward limit and you might be missing that elevator authority that was removed to prevent that you accidentally stall when the CG is...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-21-2015, 04:36 PM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
Yep, I agreee. It requires something really...

Yep, I agreee. It requires something really "special" to stall an Ercoupe.

What I meant is that you cannot make an airplane "100% unstallable no matter what" (i.e. no grey areas left) just by...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-21-2015, 02:16 PM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
So many things to say... I'm sure you will...

So many things to say...

I'm sure you will believe me that my answer can (and normally would) be much longer than your post. But I don't feel like doing right now. Perhaps later, perhaps in...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-21-2015, 06:23 AM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
Not really. It might meet FAA's stall-resistant...

Not really. It might meet FAA's stall-resistant criteria, but that doesn't mean that it can't be stalled "at all sorts of speeds and attitudes and flight modes".

Take for example the Ercoupe. The...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-21-2015, 03:25 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 975
Posted By Gabriel
Exactly, but only if you planned it that way (and...

Exactly, but only if you planned it that way (and have the required qualifications and certifications if required).
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-21-2015, 02:14 AM
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Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
Exactly, initially. Not at cruise altitudes.

Exactly, initially. Not at cruise altitudes.
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-21-2015, 01:50 AM
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Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
Well, you are quite close, except the highlighted...

Well, you are quite close, except the highlighted part.
When the pitots fail (all three give different or unreliable readings) the plane doesn't "think that is going faster/slower than it is". It...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-20-2015, 10:24 PM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
What are you talking about and what-s the...

What are you talking about and what-s the difference?
AF climbed 1500ft at 7000fpm peak, losing a good bunch of its airpseed in the process and placing the plane above its ceiling, so the situation...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-20-2015, 06:14 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 1,497
Posted By Gabriel
Related video on "advance" maneuvering. Stalls. ...

Related video on "advance" maneuvering. Stalls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oms3r1q6Gs
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-19-2015, 02:42 PM
Replies: 374
Views: 34,190
Posted By Gabriel
As soon as we have evidence that this was a case...

As soon as we have evidence that this was a case similar to AF, Colgan or Pinnacle, I will.
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-19-2015, 03:58 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 975
Posted By Gabriel
I think that the key is not the straight in part,...

I think that the key is not the straight in part, but that the pilot is able to keep the plane on the desired 4D track (2D top view, descent profile and speed) with only reasonably small corrections....
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-18-2015, 02:55 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 975
Posted By Gabriel
Well, that's sort of similar to what I've said:...

Well, that's sort of similar to what I've said: "right main first, and then left and nose together".


Also called "derollation" :uhoh:
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-17-2015, 10:51 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 340
Posted By Gabriel
You could have conceived a much more elegant...

You could have conceived a much more elegant excuse: "Sorry, wrong Embraer. I meant ERJ-135". :)

http://www.luftfahrt.net/galerie/photos/2005/17/1113914977_LX-LGL_Embraer-ERJ-135_Luxair.jpg
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-17-2015, 09:33 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 975
Posted By Gabriel
I'm 100% sure that the whining noise (weep) that...

I'm 100% sure that the whining noise (weep) that is heard immediately before the "speedbrakes up" call is the speedbrakes lever moving automatically from auto to full.

Perhaps the speedbrakes...
Forum: Aviation Safety Discussion Forum 01-17-2015, 05:56 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 975
Posted By Gabriel
Yes... [Severe clear skies, no wind, long...

Yes... [Severe clear skies, no wind, long straight-in approach, no obstacles whatsoever to concern about, long and wide runway ahead, localizer for track, VASI for glide slope visible from many miles...
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