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  • Nevadan start-up American West Jets eyes 747s, L1011s, MD83s

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    American West Jets (Las Vegas McCarran) is a start-up looking to secure the Air Operators Certificate (AOC) and other other assets belonging to the now defunct Ryan International Airlines (RN, Wichita Mid-Continent). The airline's parent, aircraft sales and leasing firm American West Aircraft, purchased Ryan International Airlines’ assets and brand for USD800'000 according to official documents seen by online resource, Airchive.

    The start-up is petitioning the US Department of Transportation to obtain Ryan International Airlines’ operating certificate without having to pay the fee, as the certificate had been dormant for over a year. Fellow start-up PEOPLExpress (Newport News) has also attempted to secure Ryan's AOC only to be denied by the DoT.

    Outlining its plans, the airline says it will commence domestic operations in May 2014 using an MD-83. It also plans to serve the south-western US to Central America market out of its Las Vegas McCarran hub before launching flights to West and Central Africa from Orlando Sanford.

    American West Jets will add four L-1011-500s to its fleet for use on routes to Central America. In June, it will claims to be taking delivery of its first high-density B747-400 to operate flights to Pago Pago, American Samoa and Brisbane Int'l, Australia. Among the interesting choice of routes listed thus far include: from Las Vegas to Sanford, San Juan Luis Muñoz Marin, San José Cabo, Pago Pago and Brisbane. From San Bernardino to Las Vegas, Sanford, Belize City Int'l, San José Cabo, Christchurch, Kingston Norman Manley, and Aruba. From Sanford to: Conakry, Accra, Lagos and Kinshasa N'Djili.
    “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

    Erwin


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    As much as I would like to see L 1011s in the skies again (provided they're completely airworthy), I think this will also get a big no-no from the DoT.

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    • #3
      There is still a US reg L1011 active in the middle east and Africa (N164AT).

      I've read somewhere they want to use the Sands L1011's....

      6 RAF L1011 are bought by a US company also. But they are Mil configured with AAR capacity. Don't think they will end up on the civil market

      But don't think it will happen indeed.
      “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

      Erwin

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      • #4
        Sometimes it seems like there are people out there competing on who can think up the most outlandish and implausible "startup" airline. We've had Family Airlines (Mk 1, 2, 3, 4?), Baltia (who at least got an airplane painted in their colors, and said airplane has actually been airborne), and now this. What exactly do they expect a -1011 to do for them than a 76 couldn't?

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        • #5
          1011 is very cheap to get
          “The only time you have too much fuel is when you’re on fire.”

          Erwin

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          • #6
            ...this harebrained scheme has a snowball's chance of working even with modern aircraft, but they wanna dig up ships that most of the Western world retired nearly 2 decades ago??

            Hell, why not try to use a DC8 or 707? Bet they can get one o' those even cheaper!
            Us, lighting a living horse on fire:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH2_Q3oJPeU

            Check it out!

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            • #7
              Ok. So, here's a few things...

              I cannot see a 747, L-1011, or even an MD-83s worth of passengers from any African nation rushing to fly to Sanford, Orlando, Florida. Not that many people are fond of the mouse. One more thing; Kinshasa! Um, what? Who do they think they are going to be putting on these planes? Did they forget Timbuktu? That MD-83 better be ETOPs certified!


              I would love to see the load expectations for flights from Las Vegas to Pago Pago to Brisbane. Um, who thinks this sh*t up? Who has a job just looking at a map and saying "Oh, I've never heard of this place before, let's just put a pin on that map - there...". I understand fully that airfares to Pago Pago can be difficult, but a 747 (in High Density), then continuing onto Brisbane?

              L-1011s and MD-83s? Iran is under sanctions and even they would not touch these planes. They steal 747-300s slower than this fly-by-night takes to come up with the idea for an airline, pick routes and have a scratch about aircraft to use.

              I would shake my head, but clearly it would be the biggest loss in this entire though process.
              Whatever is necessary, is never unwise.

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