India's military starts terrorism against POK civilians

[JeffM]

After killing 30-50,000 IOK civilians, the Indian Army has been firing on POK farmers in the field deliberately and insdiscriminately.:nonono:

[indian airlines]

Bullshit

[Richard]

30,000-50,000 civilians killed?

Whatever! You probably got them mixed up with militants or terrorists.
Show me this source....

[JeffM]

To take your stance.......

Prove it is FALSE! :lol:

[indian airlines]

I will. I don't have time now, but you bet i will, and I'll rip you to pieces this time. You've just crossed the line as far as i'm concerned.

[JeffM]

oh my God, I crossed the line this time :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[aerpix]

It is currently the habit to cross the line in the US, so do not expect more from these guys.

Regards,
Peter

[AC_A340-500]

JeffM:

you wrote:
To take your stance.......

Prove it is FALSE!



you've just committed the most elementary fallacy in debating. Never, ever make a controversial statement and simply say "disprove it" when people ask you to back your claim. But I guess they don't teach you that at McDonald's, do they? I'll have an order of fries and a medium Coke with your next comment please, Jeff.

[indian airlines]

OK. Here's to all you racist, fascist, imperialist forum users. I am referring specifically to certain people, and they know very well who they are.

JeffM. Hmm...seems to be a new habit of yours; fight with people on the forum; realise that its hopelessly one sided and that you are fighting a losing battle; look at the countries the users in question are from, and rake up old, sometimes even false issues about their countries, attempting to defame them. Just what does this prove?? You have no real argument to support your stance. I'm not talking about people who are pro war, i'm talking about you. There are other people on this forum who are opposed to my viewpoint, but they substantiate their views with real arguments. That's called healthy debate. For example, Chris. He is pro-war. That opinion goes against mine. Fortunately, his maturity level rises way above yours. Unlike you, he has nowhere resorted to the level of slander and personal attacks that you have benn employing over the past few days. If you think that you can discredit users by raking up internal problems about their countries, you have another think coming. Now just a few things about your posts. Firstly, the Indian government has never sent soldiers into the Pakistan-Occupied-Kashmir area, except during the Kargil war. All civilian losses were on the Indian side, and these were caused due to shelling by extremists. Even the USA maintains this. Bit of a shock, ain't it? Yeah.

Second, 30000-50000 civilians!!! What the hell are you talking about. If ever such an incident was to occur, it would have been widely published in numerous newspapers. I mean, lets face it...30000-50000 civilians!! Also, yeah, rake up the Tehelka issue. I admit, part of it was true, but part of it was a scam, and it was proved. As for the part of it that was true, yeah, India has its own internal problems of corruption. Most countries do. Does "Watergate" strike a bell?? And how about the Clinton-Lewinsky affair? Ahh, you vaguely remember something now, don't you? Yes, these things happened in USA!!!

Dissing Switzerland and India won't get you anywhere, except perhaps off the forums.

NWA_Flyer757. You are the epitome of immaturity. I hope that level of English is OK with you (I just thought perhaps you may not understand the big, fancy words). Once again, you are pro-war. Fine. But the way you and JeffM have been using these forums, is atrocious. Now, knowing your intellectual level, I would probably expect replies of "yeah, whatever" from you and JeffM. I'm fine with that. As i said, it's what I would expect. Now, I wouldn't expect you to change your ways. But I would just like to make one thing very clear, you are making no point at all by calling me a twerp, nitwit, wimp, loser or whatever it is you want to call me. You are using these forums as a stand for blatant, slanderous, personal attacks. Just incase you didn't know, i'm not the only user who is disgusted with you and your ways. I can only hope for you to stop your slanderous posts, not because i'm scared, but because I do not want to make these forums an unpleasant place.

Peace.,

Tanuj.

[JoeJoe440]

I Agree :nod: I dont think anyone could have put it a better way :clap:

NWA_Flyer757 And JeffM Thats how you should put your arguments insted of making fun of other cultures and religions and lauging at other countries ways of dealing with things.

Joe, 8)

[Richard]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Beautifully said Tanuj.

[NWA_Flyer757]

Your right I won't change. I've had it with other countries hating America for their entire lives, it's a stupid, why does everybody hate us you ask? Where the best, has it ever occured to you we have all the aliens from other countries? YES, Asia, Middles East, Europe. If you love us that much, to run on over here, then take the time to love us from whever you are. The US will always we there in a situation that involves YOU. Get used to it.

And your wrong on everything else :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[aerpix]

Thank you, Tanuj, there is not much I could add, your are 100% right :clap: .

NWA_Flyer 757, you wonder why everybody hates the US? You are wrong, as you mostly are, we do not hate the USA, we hate US citizens like you, with your blatant and slander language, and with your arrogance towards the rest of the world.

The only problem is that there a few too many of your kind, about 260 million!

Regards,
Peter

[NWA_Flyer757]

So basically you hate the USA. What do you like the land? Give me a break moron. The people are what makes this country so great.

[Richard]

Your right I won't change. I've had it with other countries hating America for their entire lives, it's a stupid, why does everybody hate us you ask? Where the best, has it ever occured to you we have all the aliens from other countries? YES, Asia, Middles East, Europe. If you love us that much, to run on over here, then take the time to love us from whever you are. The US will always we there in a situation that involves YOU. Get used to it.

And your wrong on everything else :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's obviously in one ear and out the other with you. Aliens you call them? So, it seems we have a fascist who can't spell for sh1t. People don't hate America because they're the best. And who's to say America is the best? America has the most powerful military, biggest economy in the world, and a beautiful landscape. That doesn't systematically make your country the best. But to such narrow-minded fools, this apparently does. Refering to Aerpix, many hate America for its arrogance. Of course you don't see this, it'd mean you having to look out of your bubble. I don't think you have the capacity to something that intelligent. I know many Americans myself, yes, Americans who are disgusted with some of the stigmatas of American foreign policy.

Personally, I don't hate America. I think it's a great country with generally very friendly and humble people. Unfortunately, America is also disgraced with people like Bush, yourself, and Jeff et al.

[NWA_Flyer757]

I don't like yours either :nod: :nod:

[aerpix]

Right said, Richard :clap: . I do not hate America, I like the beautiful landscape in most parts, the openness and the wide countyside.

I have travelled all over the US, and also lived and worked in New York for a while. I have probably seen more of the US than the average US poster in this forum, and believe me, Cory, the USA's only problem are people like you. I agree with Richard, that most of the people I have met are friendly and helpful. But when it comes to their political awareness, they just fail. This is basically no disaster, unless they expose themselves as some do in this forum. Yes, Cory, you are included.

Regards,
Peter

[NWA_Flyer757]

Why do you care, your not an American, and never will be. Who's cares what you think, you think you can put your nose into America's business, whenever something big happens, thats the problem with you people.

And why do you piss your pants when this country wants to go to war? Do you expect us to listen to a little shit country likes yours. We could step on your country. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[aerpix]

Why do you care, your not an American, and never will be. Who's cares what you think, you think you can put your nose into America's business, whenever something big happens, thats the problem with you people.

And why do you piss your pants when this country wants to go to war? Do you expect us to listen to a little shit country likes yours. We could step on your country.

Cory, we do care, because what your country is currently doing is not just an internal affair. It affects the whole world, and therefore it is our good right to say our opinion. I agree that you do not care about what we think, most Americans currently do not care about what the world wants. And that's your problem.

I highly doubt that you could step on us as easily as you think. Have you ever thought about why Hitler did not invade Switzerland during WWII, after invading most other countries around us? He pretty well knew that it would not be easy to take Switzerland. This is still valid today.

And you better listen to a country like ours. Did you ever think where all the money the USA uses comes from? The USA and many other countries heavily rely on the Swiss financial system, and if we cut off money streams, the USA would be dry like a raisin within weeks.

Regards,
Peter

[NWA_Flyer757]

Yea, thats what they tell you. Just wait tell a country trys to take you on. Will be there, then you'll know your not hot shit.

[AC_A340-500]

indian airlines, aerpix, Richard, JoeJoe440:

I agree with you all as well. From now on, I'm going to try the following:

I'm going to ignore any comment from JeffM and NWA_Flyer, unless they make an effort to discuss things in a mature manner. I hope it works.

As soon as they have shown that they are capable of proper forum etiquette, I will respond to their posts again.

[aerpix]

There won't be a country to take us, because we give no reason to anyone for taking us. We are neutral, and do not do warfare. But if someone would try to take us, he would get a couple of bloody heads.

Regards,
Peter

[NWA_Flyer757]

:shakehea: :shakehea: :shakehea: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Richard]

Yeah aerpix, why would anyone invade Switzerland. It's a sorry excuse for a response I guess?

We know better. Let's just ignore those who don't.

[raldrich]

Aerpix.. you are wrong.. there are not 260 million arrogant, self-serving people in America, however in the last two years, there has been a drastic change in the attitude of Americans toward many cultures who respond to their "internal" problems using violence and terrorism, due largely to the cowardly attacks of Sept 11, 2001. A lot of that is due to the knee-jerk reactions that are rather commonplace in our country. Most Americans actually care little about world affairs until it directly relates to them. Yes, some of our people are rather "long-winded" as the Brits say, and many of those tend to talk out of their asses, however, do not judge the people of this country by the few who tend to make fools of themselves..

Jeff and NWA.. You must learn that to effectively debate a subject, you must use more fact than conjecture, and more purpose than emotion. A base REQUIREMENT of debate is to state a position, and then defend it, not have your opposition disprove it.. learn how to do this properly or shut up.. you have many valid points, but your delivery sucks..

[aerpix]

I may be wrong, but when I hear polls that now 76% of all Americans are in favour of war, that would still make a good 180 million. I can not agree that most Americans only care for world affairs if they are directly affected. If this was true then how to come that 76% are in favour of war? Iraq has not directly affected any American citizen in the past decade or so.

Rather those 180 million are part of a mass that can easily be influenced by the media, or the government. And that's BECAUSE they do not care for world affairs, and therefore have little or no knowlege of other continents, countries, cultures and habits.

You would be ashamed to see the results if those 180 million would be asked one by one to show Iraq on a world map!

Regards,
Peter

[raldrich]

I'd be lucky if 10% of those 180 million could find New york City on a map... however, I agree that propaganda plays a large role, and in that aspect GWB is doing a fine job of motivating Americans.. however Saddam DOES pose a significant threat to acts of terrorism, and because of that, he needs to go...

[aerpix]

Well, about 17 million should easily find it, as they are living in the Greater NY area. That would roughly make up for your 10% guess :D :D .

Still I do not agree that Saddam 'has to go'. Saddam has to be moved into a position that he will not be a threat for anybody, but still I do not believe that war is the only solution for this. I would have preferred if the United Nations hat continued their job.

Regards,
Peter

[raldrich]

I suppose you're right :) Math wasn't my strongest subject...

[ATLcenter]

You know what I fail to understand? Why people around the globe are so mad at each other. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Revenge and Avenge.

So People hate America all their lives. Do we have to reciprocate it? Are we bringing our selves down to their level? And by their, I am referring to any group that is in disagreement.

Jack: Bill, you're so stupid, I'm gonna kick your ass, you old fool..."
Bill: OKay....

Why just retaliate? I bet if after WTC, you went out, and actually tried to make peace, ask why they did it, and then handed out punishments, instead of trting to make Lake Afghanistan, we'd be much better off.
NO one knows why WTC was struck down. ONly the guy who did it knows. So fix what we've done wrong.


But no. WE have to bomb, and make 400 more Osamas that your kids face. Like your parents did to you.

[aerpix]

:clap:

Regards,
Peter