ACA CRJ, meet Bus. Bus, meet ACA CRJ. [Archive] - JetPhotos.Net Forums

Chris Kilroy

10-30-2002, 04:59 PM

These photos were sent to me anonymously by a ramprat for United who was on duty at O'Hare when this happened about a week ago.

Apparently, the aircraft was taxiing to 4L for takeoff when the bus driver failed to yield, and impacted the CRJ just behind the FO's window at nearly 30 miles per hour.

The CRJ, which is ACA's 100th Regional Jet, and was just two weeks old at the time of the accident, is a writeoff according to my sources at ACA.

http://www.airdisaster.com/graphics/1.jpg

http://www.airdisaster.com/graphics/2.jpg

http://www.airdisaster.com/graphics/3.jpg

Chris Kilroy

10-30-2002, 06:15 PM

Ahh, yes.

The view of that one was much better from the inside though. laff.gif

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/coewr/3.jpg

FlyingTexan

10-30-2002, 10:44 PM

How much does a new ACA CRJ cost, what is this tab going to run the insurance company? IT is a total w/o?

Coyote

10-30-2002, 10:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Chris Kilroy:
Ahh, yes.

The view of that one was much better from the inside though. laff.gif

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/coewr/3.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that dude trying to push it out? laff.gif

FlyingTexan

10-30-2002, 10:54 PM

No kidding, I think that dude is trying to push the MacDac out!!! Guess they could not get a tug in there!! I was inbound to EWR Gate 110 on CO MD-80 once.

Southwest737

10-31-2002, 03:05 AM

The third picture looks completely fake, becaus eit is soo close up. it looks mor elike plane models that had accidnets.

edit-Their that better or do I still look drunk? LOL.

I am too young to drink-only 15 now you are 21..sooo hows your drinking problems?

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Chris Kilroy

10-31-2002, 03:11 AM

Are you drunk, Alex? laff.gif

Southwest737

10-31-2002, 03:46 AM

Ehhh ::burps:: mighta had some swipes here and their... images/smiles/icon_confused.gif Ya know, I may ahve an djust passed out and don't even remember that. I'll fix it later.

Southwest737

10-31-2002, 03:51 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by SST2707:
WOW!!! Reminds of the time when Continental drove one of their MD-80's into the terminal at EWR.

http://www.airdisaster.com/news/0600/15/1.jpg

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How, on earth did that happen? No parking brakes? or just one of those"Oh I can make it a couple more feet...-::CRASH, BOOM, THUNK, CLINKehh....Maybe not.!! shake.gif
Ohhh, ohh maybe he was DRUNK!!! ::GASP:: Shame, Shame... naughty.gif

Allright!! whats the real story??
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SST2707

10-31-2002, 05:31 AM

WOW!!! Reminds of the time when Continental drove one of their MD-80's into the terminal at EWR.

http://www.airdisaster.com/news/0600/15/1.jpg

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Jim

10-31-2002, 08:49 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FlyingTexan:
How much does a new ACA CRJ cost, what is this tab going to run the insurance company? IT is a total w/o?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Depending on how many aircraft are ordered, delivery schedule, who's buying and under what financing plan, and various other options the unit cost for a CRJ200 is between 21 million and 30 million USD. The CRJ700 is significantly more expensive. So I believe that this is likely the costliest two-vehicle "traffic accident" in US history.

NOTE - Not that it really matters and I'm sating this for purely informative purposes but let's not forget that the bus was driven by a female uhoh.gif

Jim

10-31-2002, 08:57 AM

Just as an addendun to my post above, I reckon that the CRJ's engines could probably be used on the new jet, saing a few million more. It is likely that the insurance people will do their best to push those engines on the new airframe. I'm no expert, it's just common sense. Canadair engineers will tell.

SST2707

10-31-2002, 06:22 PM

Chris... you have any more pictures of that Continental MD-80 at Newark?? I was there that day, but they hade covered it up with a blue tarp before I could get to the gate.
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Chris Kilroy

10-31-2002, 06:33 PM

Yep,

See the following link:

Link (http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/coewr/photo.shtml)

SST2707

10-31-2002, 06:43 PM

Bwuhahahahahahahah!!! images/smiles/icon_eek.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif smilewink.gif laff.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif smilewink.gif images/smiles/icon_eek.gif

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/coewr/5.jpg

Jim

11-01-2002, 05:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Aeronautics:
Is it that difficult to repair that part of the airplane? The rest of the plane looks still good.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The frame is damaged and can't be staightened like that of a car following a fender-bender, and one wing sliced into the bus. The airframe could probably be repaired but only at a higher cost than replacement on such a current model. But you are right the rest of the plane contains many parts that will likely be returned to market as spares by the insurance. Engines are a different matter: they can readily be used as is on any other aircraft of the same type if undamaged, maybe even on the new CRJ that will replace the damaged one on ACA's fleet.

Aeronautics

11-01-2002, 05:54 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jim Knight:
Just as an addendun to my post above, I reckon that the CRJ's engines could probably be used on the new jet, saing a few million more. It is likely that the insurance people will do their best to push those engines on the new airframe. I'm no expert, it's just common sense. Canadair engineers will tell.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is it that difficult to repair that part of the airplane? The rest of the plane looks still good.

tommyalf

11-02-2002, 03:47 AM

I guess that bus driver is out of work images/smiles/icon_redface.gif

FlyingTexan

11-03-2002, 11:05 PM

Thanks for the reply, Jim. What about that CO bird? Total W/O? MD-80 is more pricey than a CRJ I'd think.

Jim

11-09-2002, 01:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FlyingTexan:
Thanks for the reply, Jim. What about that CO bird? Total W/O? MD-80 is more pricey than a CRJ I'd think.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As far as I know that aircraft was returned to service, the frame being sound. It busted the terminal wall at about 2 mph and the nose is the sturdiest part of the aircraft. The CRJ is almost half the size and was rammed on its side at 30 mph by a heavy vehicle. The shockwaves in both mishaps can't begin to compare. Even a heavy aircraft hit by a bus could sustain extensive damage.

FlyingTexan

11-11-2002, 01:24 AM

IN 2000 in Rio de Janerio, a TAP A340-312 was stuck on wing/fuselage by a catering truck. Do you know if that ship is still in service? I do not know the reg#.

SST2707

11-11-2002, 08:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FlyingTexan:
IN 2000 in Rio de Janerio, a TAP A340-312 was stuck on wing/fuselage by a catering truck. Do you know if that ship is still in service? I do not know the reg#.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

CS-TOA,B,C, and D are all still in service so that aircraft was one of them.

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I will email the photographer and get one from him... I know the guy. Thanks Chris. images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

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