French people confuse me

[Greg]

France opposes war and it is confusing until you realize the french don't believe in government capitulations. They had 3 revolutions in 50 years once and they still came out of it with a king. They think monarchies(or dictatorships are the way things should be.

[JoeJoe440]

I dont understand with all those long words.

:skeptic: Whats a capitulations?

[Greg]

overthrow

[FMS]

They had 3 revolutions in 50 years once and they still came out of it with a king. They think monarchies(or dictatorships) are the way things should be.

France is lead by a chosen president, right? At least it was the last time I checked. Maybe I don't understand you correctly.

As far as monarchies go, a few countries that do not oppose war, such as the UK and the Netherlands are in fact monarchies...So when you link "monarchy" to "opposing war"............I just don't understand your post I guess. It's getting late :D

grtz

[Greg]

The only reason I put this post is because nobody in the forums ever talks. I could care less what anyone does. If I was President I would legalize marijuana and lift all trade embargos. But I don't care enought to run. That is my attitude.

[JoeJoe440]

The only reason I put this post is because nobody in the forums ever talks. I could care less what anyone does. If I was President I would legalize marijuana and lift all trade embargos. But I don't care enought to run. That is my attitude.

Maybe people have other things to do insted of posting messages on these forums :D

[Greg]

Then why are they here? :skeptic:

[N400QX]

I just don't understand their hypocrisy and stupidity. Their loss.

They sure do a good job at making us wish we hadn't liberated them in WWII though....

[ADG]

you're calling people hypocritical and stupid?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

and how do YOU explain banning a whole country from your chat channel?

Some would suggest that is hypocritical and stupid.




ADG

[FMS]

They sure do a good job at making us wish we hadn't liberated them in WWII though....

Come on man, don't state such bullshit. That's just as lame as wishing that Europe hadn't "discovered" America...

[N400QX]

ADG

I did not ban an entire country from the chat. To my knowledge, three users from Australia have been banned due to improper conduct. We have users visit from all over the world, including Australians, most of whom behave themselves and contribute to a positive chat environment. Unfortunately not all do.

FMS

I was going for humor. :skeptic:

[iceman]

I like France. I think most French people are good people. I like French food. I think French women are extremely sexy, sultry and I much prefer them to American girls (sorry, but they take better care of themselves!). I like French wine. I like French cigarettes. I think Paris is a beautiful city and CDG is a cool airport for spotting.

What astounds me is France’s attitude. I have no problem with the fact that they are against war. War truly is a terrible thing and should be avoided at all costs. Hell, I’m not entirely convinced of the need to go to war when our economy is in the toilet and we still have al-Qaeda terrorists to go after. I just don’t think the French (especially Chirac) are being honest about their reasons for not going to war. They say that war is terrible and is the morally wrong thing to do, but what are they doing in the Ivory Coast? And what about their nuclear weapons testing on the French Polynesians Islands? Those aren’t peaceful moves. Regardless of whether they are justified or not, chiding someone else when they are guilty of the same thing only makes them look like hypocrites.

I believe the French just don’t want to lose their interests in Iraq and lose the cozy relationship they have with Hussein. I also think they’re afraid of the reactions of their six or so million Muslim inhabitants in their country. Those are fine and are good reasons for not wanting a war, but at least be up front about it! Russia and China don’t want war because they don’t want to lose their interests with the present regime in Iraq, but at least they say so. I haven’t heard of any visceral reaction in this country towards China and Russia.

Maybe the French could learn a lesson in honesty from them…

[Aeronautics]

I was going for humor. :skeptic:

Better to put a smilie at such humor. I've already seen enough quarrels between French and Americans, because of such remarks.

[Richard]

Iceman makes a good point. Ah it's all political. Leaders never seem to want to manifest their true agenda, they would rather disguise it behind some rhetoric. I guess it spares them the scrutiny......

Many involved in this issue all have secret agendas:

France-drills for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Germany-drilling for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Russia-they sell arms to Iraq. Russia isn't a wealthy country, selling arms to the Iraqis helps to alleviate this. Russia also get a lot of it's oil (cheap oil) from Iraq.

China-also receives oil from iraq for cheap. also trades with iraq

America-wants a new friendly government who help project american influence in the region and help protect US interests.

No don't get me wrong. These are not the one and only reasons for the decisions of these countries, but these are some of the more discreet reasons.

[aerpix]

Name the odd-one out below:

France-drills for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Germany-drilling for oil in iraq. gets oil for very cheap. other trading done.

Russia-they sell arms to Iraq. Russia isn't a wealthy country, selling arms to the Iraqis helps to alleviate this. Russia also get a lot of it's oil (cheap oil) from Iraq.

China-also receives oil from iraq for cheap. also trades with iraq

America-wants a new friendly government who help project american influence in the region and help protect US interests.

Of course America, should be:

America-wants to drill for oil in Iraq, gets oil very cheap, other trading done.

Any questions??

Regards,
Peter

[JeffM]

Did we forget:

Saddam is a murderer of his own people, lies about everything, and could put an end to this whole thing by just giving up his weapons of mass destruction?

Thought so.

[a78jumper]

Forwarded to me today.

France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country.
France has usually been governed by prostitutes."
---Mark Twain


"I just love the French. They taste like chicken!"
---- Hannibal Lecter

While speaking to the Hoover Institution today, Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was asked this question:
"Could you tell us why to date at least the Administration doesn't favor direct talks with the North Korean government? After all, we're talking with the French."
The Secretary smiled and replied:
"I'm not going there!"

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."
--- General George S. Patton

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion."
--Norman Schwartzkopf

"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."
---- Marge Simpson

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
---Jacques Chirac, President of France
"As far as France is concerned, you're right."
---Rush Limbaugh,

"The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee."
--- Regis Philbin

There was a Frenchman, an Englishman and Claudia Schiffer sitting together in a carriage in a train going through Provence. Suddenly the train went through a tunnel and as it was an old style train, there were no lights in the carriages and it went completely dark. Then there was a kissing noise and the sound of a really loud slap. When the train came out of the tunnel, Claudia Schiffer and the Englishman were sitting as if nothing had happened and the Frenchman had his hand against his face as if he had been slapped there. The Frenchman was thinking: 'The English fella must have kissed Claudia Schiffer and she missed him and slapped me instead.' Claudia Schiffer was thinking: 'The French fella must have tried to kiss me and actually kissed the Englishman and got slapped for it.' And the Englishman was thinking: 'This is great. The next time the train goes through a tunnel I'll make another kissing noise and slap that French bastard again.'

"The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know."
--- P.J O'Rourke (1989)

Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France.

An old saying:
Raise your right hand if you like the French....
Raise both hands if you are French.

"You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the 1940s who was still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the face for it."
---John McCain, U.S. Senator from Arizona

"You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people."
--Conan O'Brien

"I don't know why people are surprised that France won't
help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France!"
---Jay Leno

"The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into Paris under a German flag."
--David Letterman


REPLACEMENTS FOR THE
FRENCH NATIONAL ANTHEM:
"Runaway" by Del Shannon,
"Walk Right In" by the Rooftop Singers,
"Everybody's Somebody's Fool? by Connie Francis,
"Running Scared" by Roy Orbison,
"I Really Don't Want to Know" by Tommy Edwards,
"Surrender" by Elvis Presley,
"Save It For Me" by The Four Seasons,
"Live and Let Die" by Wings,
"I'm Leaving It All Up To You" by Donny and Marie Osmond,
"What a Fool Believes" by the Doobie Brothers,
"Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin
"Raise Your Hands" by Jon Bon Jovi


How many Frenchmen does it take to change a light bulb?
One. He holds the bulb and all of Europe revolves around him.
________
Vapir oxygen (http://oxygenvaporizer.com)

[indian airlines]

Aha! so just because France is not helping USA attack Iraq, the anti-France propaganda machine has started already!! :lol: :lol:

On a different note, I too don't like the french, but for different reasons... :D

[AC_A340-500]

The old "If yer aint with us, yer against us" mentality. Some things really die hard. Not doing a lot to shake the old American stereotypes, are we now? I feel bad for the sensible Americans who are accused of being unpatriotic. Kind of reminds me of the Salem witch hunts and the xenophobia of the 50's when everyone was afraid of the "communists" living in the country (of course there were none). :shock:

By the way, has anyone seen the movie "Bowling for Columbine"?

Also, I have had many pleasant experiences travelling through France. Yeah, sometimes people were a little unfriendly, but moreoften people were very friendly and helpful. And that as an anglophone travelling in a car with German license plates!

[aerpix]

I highly respect France, and some governments of other countries around here for their clear anti-war position!

At the eve of war it is certainly not the time to start an anti-French propaganda here.

Regards,
Peter

[NWA_Flyer757]

I now will be boycotting anything french, and will never have anything to do with that poor excuse of a country again.

[Richard]

I ridicule this anti-french sentiment. It's childish and irrational. It's interesting to see how Americans had hitherto enjoyed french food, and anything else french. So what if they think going to war with Iraq is at this time a stupid idea. They are far from alone. Well, I guess we could call Russia and China sorry ecscuses for a country too eh? Yeah, let's all knock most of the world too shall we? The fact that so many today are bashing and boycotting the French for their own opinion and point of view, something that I believe the United States advocates, seems very fascist.

Freedom Fries? Freedom Toast? Whatever. :lol: :shakehea: :roll:

All I can say is ALLEZ LE FRANCE!!!!!

Peace.

Richard

[JeffM]

Hey France said they would join us if Iraq uses chemical or bio weapons!

We might just need them,.. after all the labels on those things are in French....

And go ahead and add Russia and China to the list richard...


Time to rock and roll

Jeff

[JoeJoe440]

All I can say is ALLEZ LE FRANCE!!!!!

Whats that mean?!? :lol: :nod: :lol:

Joe, 8)

[aerpix]

Should probably be 'Allez, la France', or better 'Vive la France!'. And yes, God bless the Americans, for their childish behaviour towards a great country.

Regards,
Peter

[indian airlines]

Richard wrote:
All I can say is ALLEZ LE FRANCE!!!!!


Whats that mean?!?

Joe,

Its something like long live France, or something along those lines.

[NWA_Flyer757]

Great country, the have no views, but the ones imbedded in their thick heads, that have no clue whats happening over here, and they all beleive that moron of a president, prime freak or whatever they hell all your Non-Americans call your President.

And for the record, but because where the BEST doesn't mean you need to hate us, just wait all your poor pathetic countries will need our help in the furture, if I had a choice, I'd leave ya to water, and let ya'll drown.

[JeffM]

Cory,
Don't waste your time with these guys. They are not worth the effort.

[indian airlines]

Great country, the have no views, but the ones imbedded in their thick heads, that have no clue whats happening over here, and they all beleive that moron of a president, prime freak or whatever they hell all your Non-Americans call your President.

And for the record, but because where the BEST doesn't mean you need to hate us, just wait all your poor pathetic countries will need our help in the furture, if I had a choice, I'd leave ya to water, and let ya'll drown.

I think thats quite enough slander. Try to get some ideas out of your thick head.

1) America is not heaven.
2) George Bush is not God.
3) All our "poor pathetic countries" combined, can whoop America's ass big time.

Move out of your small, narrowed, stunted intelligence, and look beyond America. You'll be surprised at what you see.

Wait till the war ends. What effect do you think thats going to have on America's economy? It will not remain a superpower for too long now. Saddam Hussein will use biochemical weapons against USA, and not much of your "great country will be left.

USA had placed an embargo on Pakistan for quite some years now. Just before the vote for war was to be passed in the security council (which Pakistan is a member of), USA lifted its embargo. Why do you think so? Not because Pakistan had complied with the US demands which would get the embargo lifted. The embargo was lifted so that USA could secure a vote from Pakistan. Now isn't that just the sort of thing a slimy, sly, shady crook would do?

Please look before you diss any country again, America is not faultless, and is not the "BEST".

[dave4164_Z]

It is very unfortunate that there are people who are so narrow-minded as to actually believe stuff like this. The USA could be a great nation, however people outside the US read things like this and it just makes us all look like a bunch of uneducated chumps.

Please bear in mind, this type of thought is not the majority. There are many great people here, just like all around the earth. Their voices are just drowned out now by the sound of chanting and war drums.

The USA is still a young country, and, like any youth going through it's adolescence, has a lot to still learn. I pray that we can do so before we destroy ourselves.

[JeffM]

You pray...

We will take care of business....

[dave4164_Z]

You pray...

We will take care of business....

Your business is what causes the need for my prayers.

This country may be the biggest and baddest kid on the block today, but have you ever heard of Karma?

[JeffM]

Why don't you ask Saddam and the other terrorists how they feel about it?
Personally I think it's a bunch of crap.

[NWA_Flyer757]

Indian Airlines - now your just pathetic.

Do you really think Kong Kong, and all the other countries could stand a chance of fighting America in a war? Why not take a look our America's fleet of military equ. see how that stacks up against the others, you really don't see the point, America is the best country in the world, we have the most freedom than any other country in the world, we have a government willing to protect us, and if it involves killing people than so be it. This is America pal, we live and breath freedom everyday, we don't wake up, and have to worry about getting killed today because we don't like what our Commander In Chief is eating for breakfast!

And you say America is not heaven, Bush is not God, at least we agree on one thing, I don't beleive in that type of take, Bush being God, is what they do over there in Iraq, thats what Saddam is to his people, which he has brainwashed. Here our government is just as equal as a school teacher, they are here to protect the freedom of Americans, and run this country to the best of their ability, and a hell of a job they are doing, and why not add some peace to the world while their at it, by getting rid of Saddam that makes this world a better place for us, and you over there in the Land of Chop Suey, Saddam is nothing more than a tyrant to this world, get that through your head.

And you honestly believe that this embargo with Paki is "slim" "sly", we only are trying to get votes for one reason, and one reason only, TO PROTECT AMERICA, by that I mean take Saddam out, over here, we believe Saddam is a terrorist, which would be eliminated, so yea, the government is going to take massive steps to ensure the safety of America.

And you actually think Saddam is going to use biochemicals HERE in America? Not going to happen pal, the Asains over there may be distracted by a Panda, but not here, we will at all costs protect the safety of America, you think were not prepaird? You freakin wake up pal.

This is nothing more than a test, a test that shows America will handle this tyrant with ease, and professionalism, and we WILL show this world we will excel, we WILL pass this test.

[indian airlines]

HAHAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol:

You actually think that America is indefeatable. If 5 countries join up and attack it, do you really think that America will stand a chance???

Ok, so according to you, Russia, China, India and France (they are allies now, by the way) cannot defeat the USA if they wanted to. Well, if you are so naive as to believe that, then it will be useless trying to drill anything into your head.

I dont like what the commander in chief of any country eats for breakfast. That does not mean i will get killed. Open your eyes. America is not the only country that offers its citizens freedom. So it may be a bigshot power now, but it will not be so if they fight with Iraq.

So you can sit in your cosy little American home, and think your own American thoughts, and then when reality strikes, dont be surprised; you aren't invincible.

[NWA_Flyer757]

What when we hit the shit out of the rag heads? What are they gonna do? Were fighting on their soil, nothing will happen on American mainland, NOTHING.

And what are those countries gonna do, sit on their ass, and whine the UN, that America is too mean? Remember all those freakin countries where to much of a PUSSY to go to war. Where not.

Plus he have Britian, AUS, Canada, so you cannot expect anything out of that.

Go eat some Ho Chong Cheng, your pathetic.

[dave4164_Z]

What when we hit the shit out of the rag heads? What are they gonna do? Were fighting on their soil, nothing will happen on American mainland, NOTHING.




You seem short with your memory. All of our great weapons, and 10 cowardly men (not proper really to call them "men", as they were much much less) with box cutters felled the tallest buildings in our country.

[NWA_Flyer757]

Yes, but before then where we going to take out Saddam?

[dave4164_Z]

Yes. Read it here:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

[NWA_Flyer757]

Of course that idea was always there, but it was not life threatening, as it is today, if it was, war would have started then.

[Richard]

Indian Airlines, I understand your point fully. Just let the ignorants live their lives naively thinking they are omniscient. We know better. Why fight with fools? Even if you can beat them, they wouldn't know it...

Peace.

Richard

[NWA_Flyer757]

So basically by talking behing America's back, shows your are nothing more than tyrants, like Saddam, and Osamma, America's view is to fight terrorism, and by that, we go to war, if you cannot handle that, it's pretty pathetic, we are full hearted in America and fight for our freedom, that only shows you are nothing more than scared, and cowardly.

[indian airlines]

Go eat some Ho Chong Cheng, your pathetic.

Just by the way, you obsessed warhead, i'm not chinese. I just live in hong kong. there's another instance calling for you to check your facts before you speak.

[JeffM]

Russia, China, India and France ???? These are the countries you think that could defeat us? That's a good one :lol: ...... The blind leading the blind, poor, and chicken! :nod: :lol: :P Russia is the only one that would have ever given us a good fight, but that was a long time ago.

Hey wait!!!!!!! May be the U.N. could speed things along! And I hear Hans Blix is looking for work..... :D

[indian airlines]

I meant all four of them together

[JeffM]

So did I..... :lol:

[raldrich]

1. Russia won't do it they need our grain, and our money

2. china won't do it, they want our money, and influence, and they have no means, other than the nuclear option that no one will even consider, to accomplish it.

3 india might, but they wouldn't last long.

4. France won't because they don't have the resolve for a protracted fight.

[indian airlines]

1) Once USA is defeated, Russia will have their grain and money

2) Same for China. They will be powers if they defeat USA, and will not need any influence.

3) India may not last long on its own, but with 3 others, u bet it will.

4) Like u know a lot about France....

[JeffM]

:lol:

A student comedian from Hong Kong of all places!

Just line 'em up....it will be like bowling.. :P

[indian airlines]

It will be like bowling, where you will have your balls knocked out.

[Richard]

Jeff,

I don't see what you have against students. Just because we are younger, it doesn't make us inferior. If one must resort to personal attacks, this reflects not only the fact that one can't think of a real argument, but it also portrays an individual to be insecure. So let's just refrain from personal attacks shall we?

Plus, let's leave location out of this. So what if people are not in the US. I know dozens of Americans vehemently against the war, both abroad and in the US. It all depends on how much we are willing to see the various perspectives.

Peace.

Richard

[NWA_Flyer757]

Attacks, please do not start that crap. Your openly attacking America pal.

SAD :lol: :lol:

[JeffM]

Richard,
This is not a personal attack on who ever "Indian Airlines" is, or you for that matter. I think you both are insecure and immature little twerps, that see the world through the rose colored glasses your insignificant little government gave you. You probably write the things you do as you enjoy getting people like Cory upset, and probably have nothing better to do.

When I start the personal attacks.......you'll know it. :nod:
So, ramble all you want, I find it amusing.

Jeff
"A believer of the new Iraq Urban Renewal Project" :wink:

[indian airlines]

Jeff...

Read this.

http://www.jetphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=918&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Scroll down to my long post.

Tanuj.

[dave4164_Z]

Jeff,

I don't see what you have against students. Just because we are younger, it doesn't make us inferior. If one must resort to personal attacks, this reflects not only the fact that one can't think of a real argument, but it also portrays an individual to be insecure. So let's just refrain from personal attacks shall we?

Plus, let's leave location out of this. So what if people are not in the US. I know dozens of Americans vehemently against the war, both abroad and in the US. It all depends on how much we are willing to see the various perspectives.

Peace.

Richard

I think if you look, it's a bit more than "dozens" who oppose the current military action in Iraq. But it still amazes me how many people here in this country are either unwilling or unable to see the various perspectives. I hope they wake up before it's too late, but I'm afraid it may already be.

[JeffM]

Who said I did not see the "other" side in this? I have, and have chosen the right side. Saddam is evil, and had every chance over the last 12 years to prevent the whole thing. He made his bed, and will now sleep in it... Tucked in by a few U.S. Marines. :lol: :lol:

[Richard]

Why am I not suprised. I ask politely that you show some respect for others and you ridicule me further. How sad.

[AC_A340-500]

JeffM wrote:
I think you both are insecure and immature little twerps, that see the world through the rose colored glasses your insignificant little government gave you.


Ladies and Gentlemen,

may I introduce JeffM, the newest member to the "Yappy little dog, protected by a big fence" club:

It's interesting to see how people vicariously become empowered through their country's military might. It's kind of like "my dad can beat up your dad" for adults.

Grow up Jeff!

[aerpix]

It's like playing in the sandbox. Tss, tss, tss.

Regards,
Peter

[JeffM]

Yap, Yap, Yap........

Iraq is a big sandbox!!

Yap, Yap, Yap, Yap........ :nod:

[AC_A340-500]

Hey Jeff, that was actually kind of funny :)

[Richard]

You knock students while you yourself has the maturity far below that of your average high schooler. Sad.

[AC_A340-500]

Hey Jeff, that was actually kind of funny :)

[NWA_Flyer757]

Richard, your sad. Respect? Your "friends" aren't repsecting people either, it's right under your probably rather large nose, and you cannot see it? String in your face your something?

Get a life, people aren't always nice. TO BAD SO SAD :lol: :lol: :lol:

[JoeJoe440]

You knock students while you yourself has the maturity far below that of your average high schooler. Sad.

Thats NWA_Flyer757 alright :lol:

NWA_Flyer757 You come out with comments like a 3 year old there pathtic, put some facts to your answers fiest insted of attacking people with babyish name calling.

Does anyone agree with me when i say he acts like a 3 year old or am i alone in thinking that?

Joe, 8)

[NWA_Flyer757]

Great, excellent. I'm glad you feel that way. I don't like you either :)

[JoeJoe440]

Did i say i didnt like you?

I'm not a person to take hate towards someone over such a stupid issue and especially when its someone i cant see.

Joe, 8)

[NWA_Flyer757]

Are you still replying? :( :(

You are badmouthing the Chief of the United States Of America. I will get pissed, and expect to get hurt. :roll: :roll:

[JoeJoe440]

Are you still replying?

Why shoudlt i be i said i wouldnlt let it go any further in the other post not any other, seems like i'll stop replying to you in this one to. :nod:

Joe, 8)

[NWA_Flyer757]

Finally :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: