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WOSR
07-07-2008, 12:22 AM
Last month I was sent away to Phuket for a conference, rang a few friends active in ATC and asked the aircraft type, they confirmed it would be a Thai 777-2 series.
Pristine looking aircraft, took off at midnight local time from Brisbane and arrived in Bangkok at 6am local. Flight was absolutely full.

I was lucky enough to have a window seat and the seat pitch was quite good for economy class. We cruised at 41,000 feet. I thought the aircraft was a little noisy though...I was sitting immediately behind the wing, and I like to sleep resting my head on the side of the aircraft, just behind the window, but the whole thing was vibrating so much it gave me a headache...also the "hum" of the engines was quite loud!

Arrival over BKK was just before dawn so not much could be seen. We came in on ILS 19L and landing was good, although looking out the window I though this was the narrowest runway I had ever been on!!! Just as I thought that, the aeroplane surged quite quickly to the right twice, as two enormous bootfuls of rudder were applied, and behold, the rest of the runway came to view...we had obviously landed to the left of the centreline and a quick correction made after touchdown.

We waited on 2 hours before taking off to Phuket in an A300-600R...must admit I have a soft spot for these birds, had a lot to do with them in a previous life. This aircraft did not have IFE, it reminded me of the interior of the current Qantas 767 fleet, but it was in VERY good condition! Seating arrangement was 2-4-2 with plenty of room, and again, it was totally full.

I have always loved to see their Flaps 1 setting for takeoff, and had a chuckle as a few people were talking aloud that the pilots had forgotten to lower the flaps for takeoff! Take off was very powerful indeed, steep nose up into light turbulence as the heat of the day is starting to make itself noticed. A relatively short 40 minute flight later, we were on finals to Phuket runway 27.

The approach was a typical Airbus-academy high nose angle approach which so many carriers discard...it felt a bit awkward, lots to power corrections and we came for one of the hardest landings I have ever experienced...it felt like we left a divet on the runway....then a high bounce and down again for another hard touchdown....up in the air and we finally settled on the runway....hard application of brakes and reverse, and we stopped at the piano keys on the other side of the runway!! The Airbus did not move forward any more as the taxyway at the head of runway 09 was to our left and slightly behind us! A hard left turn and we taxied to the terminal. The weather was very hot and humid, but no wind.

The return trip saw us board a relatively new Airbus A330 for the sector Phuket-Bangkok. Again, the aeroplane was in very good condition and every single seat was taken. The seat config was 2-4-2 once again, very comfortable, although it surprised me that it did not have IFE.

After a powerful takeoff, we climbed to 35,000 feet and made a visual approach to 19L in Bangkok. I was lucky to have a window seat yet again, and was very impressed with the quietness of the cabin, I had a good 30 minute sleep. Very smooth landing and we taxied to the terminal.

After another 2 hours, we boarded a B777-2 for the trip to Sydney. Again I scored a window seat on the right hand side this time, and I was 4 rows from the end. The power of the B777 came to its fore when takeoff time arrived, and I remembered how noisy it gets....I cursed having a window seat...note to self, when flying in a B777, get an aisle seat if you want to sleep!!! As it was, managed 40 minutes' sleep in this overnight flight, arrived at sydney at 6:20am absolutely exhausted. Landing was firm was excusable....there was a stiff crosswind on runway 34L.

All in all, a very good experience, got to fly different types of aeroplanes in one of the most picturesque places in Asia!!

AerLingusA330
07-07-2008, 09:46 AM
Last month I was sent away to Phuket for a conference, rang a few friends active in ATC and asked the aircraft type, they confirmed it would be a Thai 777-2 series.
Pristine looking aircraft, took off at midnight local time from Brisbane and arrived in Bangkok at 6am local. Flight was absolutely full.

I was lucky enough to have a window seat and the seat pitch was quite good for economy class. We cruised at 41,000 feet. I thought the aircraft was a little noisy though...I was sitting immediately behind the wing, and I like to sleep resting my head on the side of the aircraft, just behind the window, but the whole thing was vibrating so much it gave me a headache...also the "hum" of the engines was quite loud!

Arrival over BKK was just before dawn so not much could be seen. We came in on ILS 19L and landing was good, although looking out the window I though this was the narrowest runway I had ever been on!!! Just as I thought that, the aeroplane surged quite quickly to the right twice, as two enormous bootfuls of rudder were applied, and behold, the rest of the runway came to view...we had obviously landed to the left of the centreline and a quick correction made after touchdown.

We waited on 2 hours before taking off to Phuket in an A300-600R...must admit I have a soft spot for these birds, had a lot to do with them in a previous life. This aircraft did not have IFE, it reminded me of the interior of the current Qantas 767 fleet, but it was in VERY good condition! Seating arrangement was 2-4-2 with plenty of room, and again, it was totally full.

I have always loved to see their Flaps 1 setting for takeoff, and had a chuckle as a few people were talking aloud that the pilots had forgotten to lower the flaps for takeoff! Take off was very powerful indeed, steep nose up into light turbulence as the heat of the day is starting to make itself noticed. A relatively short 40 minute flight later, we were on finals to Phuket runway 27.

The approach was a typical Airbus-academy high nose angle approach which so many carriers discard...it felt a bit awkward, lots to power corrections and we came for one of the hardest landings I have ever experienced...it felt like we left a divet on the runway....then a high bounce and down again for another hard touchdown....up in the air and we finally settled on the runway....hard application of brakes and reverse, and we stopped at the piano keys on the other side of the runway!! The Airbus did not move forward any more as the taxyway at the head of runway 09 was to our left and slightly behind us! A hard left turn and we taxied to the terminal. The weather was very hot and humid, but no wind.

The return trip saw us board a relatively new Airbus A330 for the sector Phuket-Bangkok. Again, the aeroplane was in very good condition and every single seat was taken. The seat config was 2-4-2 once again, very comfortable, although it surprised me that it did not have IFE.

After a powerful takeoff, we climbed to 35,000 feet and made a visual approach to 19L in Bangkok. I was lucky to have a window seat yet again, and was very impressed with the quietness of the cabin, I had a good 30 minute sleep. Very smooth landing and we taxied to the terminal.

After another 2 hours, we boarded a B777-2 for the trip to Sydney. Again I scored a window seat on the right hand side this time, and I was 4 rows from the end. The power of the B777 came to its fore when takeoff time arrived, and I remembered how noisy it gets....I cursed having a window seat...note to self, when flying in a B777, get an aisle seat if you want to sleep!!! As it was, managed 40 minutes' sleep in this overnight flight, arrived at sydney at 6:20am absolutely exhausted. Landing was firm was excusable....there was a stiff crosswind on runway 34L.

All in all, a very good experience, got to fly different types of aeroplanes in one of the most picturesque places in Asia!!

The way you have wrote that trip report, your making it sound like, that the you prefered to fly the Airbus instead of the Boeings

WOSR
07-07-2008, 11:45 PM
hmmm...I enjoyed the B777, I was very curious about it because one of my best friends is an instructor on B777 for a large Asian airline, and he considers it a very complete aeroplane.


I was impressed with the size of the thing, smooth ride and capabilities, but the downside when you have such tremendous engines close to the fuselage is the noise level!

The A330 is similar in size but did not seem to have the noise problem, and I can't figure out why?

I just love aeroplanes, one of my enjoyable rides many years ago was in an IL76!! Now there's technology for you!!!

pbateson
07-08-2008, 06:30 AM
Nice report!

You board on brand new A330 Thai Airways with same engines or different engines?

WOSR
07-08-2008, 11:46 PM
The B777s have Trent 800s and the A330s have Trent 700s.

BoeingKing77
11-28-2008, 08:27 PM
You must have liked the 777.I hope someday to fly the UA 777 Chigago to Denver.

rohank4284
11-29-2008, 03:45 PM
Overall an excellent trip report, thank you for sharing. Now back to your question about the Boeing 777 being louder than the Airbus A330. The first thing to note is that the Airbus A330 competes with the Boeing 767, the Airbus A340-300 or the newer A340-500 compete with the Boeing 777-200/200ER series.

I have flown both aircraft types and agree that the Airbus A330 is slightly quieter, on the other hand, I have been on extremely quiet 777s and very noisy 777s. Aircraft noise is due to a variety of factors, for instance, the weather can play a role. In addition, if the flight is behind schedule, the pilot will often increase the crusing speed past the traditional Mach .84 used on the 777, the 777 can cruise all the way up to Mach .89! If the pilot does do this, the engine power needed increases, and the noise level goes way up! A second factor is that when I checked JP.net's airframe database, it showed that most of Thai's 777s use the older RR Trent 875 (75,000 lbs of thrust) on their 777s. This engine variant is an older one as most airlines now use the newer RR Trent 892 or the Trent 895 (92,000-95,000 lbs of thrust). Having flown 777 aircraft powered by those engines, I know that they are much quieter.:-)

The Boeing 777 was powered by 3 different engines in several different thrust ranges. The 3 engine manufacturers for the 777 are PW, GE, and RR. The older GE 90 versions such as the GE 90-77B or the GE90-85B variants and the older Rolls Royce Trent engines such as the RR Trent 875 or the RR Trent 884 variants were very loud. The newer GE90-92B, the GE90-94B and the RR Trent 892 or the Trent 895 are more powerful and much quieter.

Also, Thai's Airbus A330s are powered by the PW4167 engines, not the RR Trent 700s.

Sorry for the long winded reply, hope it helps,

Rohan