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ATrude777
03-04-2008, 08:43 PM
www.cnn.com

I believe it is this jet..

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N113SH

http://newsok.com/article/3211930/1204665797

Alex
Dmmoore
03-05-2008, 12:32 AM
A Cessna 500 Citation.
"EYE" witness says the aircraft was out if control before impact.
Foxtrot
03-05-2008, 03:46 PM
The aircraft was registered to Southwest Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine LLC, apprarently the President and Vice-President of United Engines, an engine company based in Oklahoma City. Also another businessman. Some people saw the jet spiralling before it went down. RIP.
3WE
03-05-2008, 05:37 PM
I'm thinking the weather was fairly OK at the time of the crash.

Out of control biz-jet would be a strange set of circumstances.
DaveGF4G
03-05-2008, 09:50 PM
I hate these horrible kind of crashes.... out of control
Gabriel
03-06-2008, 03:11 AM
I hate these horrible kind of crashes.... out of control
And what is the horrible kind of crash you don't hate? CFIT? Mid-air? In-flight break-up?
3WE
03-06-2008, 04:43 PM
And what is the horrible kind of crash you don't hate? CFIT? Mid-air? In-flight break-up?

If I had to be in a fatal plane crash, I'd like to be killed "instantly"....sadly, it takes several seconds to get from the flight levels to the surface and I don't particularly like falling, spinning and feelings of aceleration (except for when I lay into the accelerator on my car)....

So (if I had a choice- which is of course a bad joke itself), I'd would prefer CFIT over control loss- preferably a mountainside! Maybe a center fuel tank explosion from a spark or a suitcase bomb might be ok.

Mid-air is probably a bad choice unless you can really make it head on...seems like a lot of mid-airs include the out of control ride as a bonus. In-flight break up....yeah too much of a chance to "experience it" too.
Foxtrot
03-06-2008, 06:01 PM
Local media reported yesterday that more than one eyewitness reported seeing the jet fly into a flock of birds, and now the NTSB will be investigating the possibility of either a bird hit or a bird being ingested into one of the engines.

Weather was actually pretty good.
Gabriel
03-06-2008, 09:25 PM
I'd prefer CFIT over control loss- preferably a mountainside! Maybe a center fuel tank explosion from a spark or a suitcase bomb might be ok.
Be careful with your wishes. 99% of the people survive a CWT or bomb explosion just to "enjoy" the ride down and die at impact. The possibility of being just hurt during the explosion and experiencing several seconds of physical pain is a plus.
That's what "maybe" and "might" are for in that sentence;)
flyboy2548m
03-07-2008, 01:03 AM
99% of the people survive a CWT or bomb explosion just to "enjoy" the ride down and die at impact.

Um....how do you know that? Is there some database of CWT explosions and immediate survivability thereof?
DaveGF4G
03-07-2008, 12:32 PM
Well, I hate ALL crashes ..... but out of control from cruise altitude to impact has to be the worst. The absolute most horrific example I can think of is the Alaskan Air MD-80 out of control and inverted from FL260. It was over a minute and a half from complete loss to impact.... hanging upside down from your seatbelt
3WE
03-10-2008, 01:02 AM
Well, I hate ALL crashes ..... but out of control from cruise altitude to impact has to be the worst. The absolute most horrific example I can think of is the Alaskan Air MD-80 out of control and inverted from FL260. It was over a minute and a half from complete loss to impact.... hanging upside down from your seatbeltThe two 737 hard-overs, the AA ATR in Indianna, The PSA Do Jet? where the disgruntled mechanic shot the pilots, the 9/11 aircraft, GOL and any number of other midairs....

While I've got religion, I'm sometimes think there must be some serious psycological counselors on staff in heaven....it has to be a hell of a ride.
flyboy2548m
03-10-2008, 02:12 AM
The PSA Do Jet? where the disgruntled mechanic shot the pilots...

That airplane had two engines too many to be a Do-Jet.
DaveGF4G
03-10-2008, 12:33 PM
The two 737 hard-overs, the AA ATR in Indianna, The PSA Do Jet? where the disgruntled mechanic shot the pilots, the 9/11 aircraft, GOL and any number of other midairs....

While I've got religion, I'm sometimes think there must be some serious psycological counselors on staff in heaven....it has to be a hell of a ride.

The 737 hard-overs were VERY bothersome until they figured it out. I had heard that Boeing at first tried to cover the problem up... anyone else hear that?