Fear of Flying Forum...

[wingnut]

If there are other refugees from the erstwhile AirDisaster.com forums with a specific interest in the fear of flying, your erstwhile newly-appointed moderator would like to recommend an excellent FoF support site called Taking Flight:

http://www.takingflight.us/forums/

This link will take you straight to the discussion forums.


happy trails,
wingnut :)

[Dmmoore]

Thanks for the link.

[Verbal]

Would it be possible to establish a Fear of Filing Forum? Tax return documents are starting to arrive in the mail....

[wingnut]

If the JPers would like a local fright-training forum, I'd be happy to look in on it once in a while. :)

[MikaelCLT]

If the JPers would like a local fright-training forum, I'd be happy to look in on it once in a while. :)

heh. i'll take them up in the Skyhawk, bring her around then hit the throttles and do a 90 pull. when the horn sounds off i'll let go of the yoke and say "recover".

-- actually i know a large number of pilots that have a fear of heights...

[3WE]

heh. i'll take them up in the Skyhawk, bring her around then hit the throttles and do a 90 pull. when the horn sounds off i'll let go of the yoke and say "recover".

-- actually i know a large number of pilots that have a fear of heights...SCHORSH....GABRIEL....HERE'S YOUR CHANCE!!!!!!!!!

Mike....I think I'll sit at your side, and not grab the yoke, and do nothing and see what happens......Ok Schorsch...your thread....

[wingnut]

Actually, my phobia recovery regimen is very similar.
This got me over whatever was left of my fear of flying...:nod:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsX2yGJ2Tn4



OK, Schorsch, it's all yours...

[Tbun]

Fear of crashing forums would be a better name.

[Gabriel]

Mike....I think I'll sit at your side, and not grab the yoke, and do nothing and see what happens
In a Cessna? It'll recover by itself a few seconds after leaving it alone.
Now try that in the Tomahawk and...

[3WE]

In a Cessna? It'll recover by itself a few seconds after leaving it alone.
Now try that in the Tomahawk and...I was thinking it would do some dive and climb phugoid oscillations.

By the way, I do understand phugoids right, airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane climbs or descends (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed.

Hopefully this oscillation is dampened and decreases over time.....

[Gabriel]

phugoid: airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane climbs or descends (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed, only that it works too hard and overshoots the trim speed, so again it's out of wack but to the other side and everything begins again.

Hopefully this oscillation is dampened and decreases over time.....
Now, that's the shortest definition of phugoid I've ver seen that is at the same time very understandable for the layman and acceptable for the engineer.

3WE, you are brilliant.

[3WE]

Now, that's the shortest definition of phugoid I've ver seen that is at the same time very understandable for the layman and acceptable for the engineer.

3WE, you are brilliant.Ok, next question:

A logic excercise:
If Balsa wood airplanes + Wolfgang Langewishche's book Stick & Rudder = Brillaint

Then a private pilot + MSFS experience = Ability to land an airliner.

[3WE]

Now, that's the shortest definition of phugoid I've ver seen that is at the same time very understandable for the layman and acceptable for the engineer.

3WE, you are brilliant.ACTUALLY GABE, it's more like this:

phugoid: airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane "automatically" climbs or descends (due to it's design) (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed, only that there's a lag in time until the plane reaches it's "trimmed" speed and during that lag the plane has climbed or descended (in a relative sense) too much and is then out of whack on the other side, so that it reverses it's climb or dive, again attempting to get back to it's trimmed speed.


This process will repeat iteself several times: It can possibly get worse in the amount of "climbing and diving" (negative dampening) or the plane can "gradually" zero in on it's trimmed airspeed (positive dampening), or it can simply maintain this oscillation (neutral dampening). Most aircraft are designed to inherently and eventually"zero in" on the trimmed airspeed.


Oh oh, we are starting to get into the length of Gabriel posts ;-)

[Half Bottle]

ACTUALLY GABE, it's more like this:

phugoid: airspeed and/or attitude is out of whack so the plane climbs or descends (in a relative sense) to work towards it's "trimmed" airspeed, only that there's a lag in time until the plane reaches it's "trimmed" speed and during that lag the plane has climbed (or descended) (in a relative sense) too much and is then out of whack on the other side, so that it reverses it's climb or dive, again attempting to get back to it's trimmed speed.
This process will repeat iteself several times: It can possibly get worse in the amount of "climbing and diving" (negative dampening) or the plane can "gradually" zero in on it's trimmed airspeed (positive dampening), or it can simply maintain this oscillation (neutral dampening). Most aircraft are designed to inherently and eventually"zero in" on the trimmed airspeed.

Oh oh, we are starting to get into the length of Gabriel posts ;-)


Hopefully this oscillation is dampened and decreases over time.....
And to think I was so proud of you two posts ago.

[3WE]

And to think I was so proud of you two posts ago.And what does my signature say???

[Half Bottle]

And what does my signature say???
That's what I mean. I got 17 PMs after your last post asking for a translation!

[3WE]

Halfie: Seriously, are you getting PM's????

If so, I'll change my signature!!!

Back to normal mode:

FAO anyone PMin'g Halfie on Phugoids, in this case you should be asking Gabe or Schorsh for clarification.

[rattler]

Would it be possible to establish a Fear of Filing Forum? Tax return documents are starting to arrive in the mail....

:)

Seriously, two forums are missed from my POV, and I recal one of the forums gods stating on day one of the refugee surge that we just had to ask, so I will:

- FoF
- Political Discussion

Both help, none hurts.

My 2c, what you guys/gals think?

Rattler

[Tbun]

STFU. thanks. :shakehea:

[Half Bottle]

:)

Seriously, two forums are missed from my POV, and I recal one of the forums gods stating on day one of the refugee surge that we just had to ask, so I will:

- FoF
- Political Discussion

Both help, none hurts.

My 2c, what you guys/gals think?

Rattler
I'm not sure whether a FoF forum will be needed here since I think it was the nature of the old website (as a crash site) that drew foffies in the door. That may not happen here. Still, as you say, I don't think it could hurt.

But I do agree that the political forum would be a good addition, especially given that this is a U.S. presidential election year and that will probably drive a fair amount of discussion. (Note: I'm not being U.S-centric here, I'm just acknowledging that U.S. poltics does typically drive a lot of our discussion, from all corners of the world).

[Verbal]

(Note: I'm not being U.S-centric here, I'm just acknowledging that U.S. poltics does typically drive a lot of our discussion, from all corners of the world).Such as Brazil.

[Schorsch]

But I do agree that the political forum would be a good addition, especially given that this is a U.S. presidential election year and that will probably drive a fair amount of discussion. (Note: I'm not being U.S-centric here, I'm just acknowledging that U.S. poltics does typically drive a lot of our discussion, from all corners of the world).

And everybody is interested in the next person who has the unique ability to (order someone who orders someone to) drop a smart bomb in you garden, no matter were you live.

[Half Bottle]

And everybody is interested in the next person who has the unique ability to (order someone who orders someone to) drop a smart bomb in you garden, no matter were you live.
Is this a warning to Multiman? If so, I concur.