A Quick Reference Guide to Categories

[AJ]

Below is a list giving examples of the categories applied to or not applied to various types. The aircraft below cause the most confusion. The list is not exhaustive but can act as a guide when uploading.

Please feel free to request additions or amendments to this list.

Aérospatiale/British Aircraft Corportation Concorde - "Warbird/Vintage"

Airbus CJ - All Models "Business Jet"

Air Tractor - All Models "Small Prop"

Antonov An-2 - "Warbird/Vintage"

Auster - All Models "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

Beech 18 - "Warbird/Vintage"

Beechcraft King Air - No Categories

Beechcraft D17S Staggerwing - "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

Beechcraft Starship 2000 - No Categories

Beechcraft T-1A Jayhawk - "Business Jet"

Boeing Stearman/Kaydet - All Models "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

Boeing BBJ - All Models "Business Jet"

Boeing (MDC) C-17 - "Cargo Aircraft"

British Aerospace Jetstream 31 - No Categories

Britten-Norman Islander/Trilander - "Small Prop"

Cessna 400 Series (Including Conquests) - "Small Prop"

Cessna L-19 and Cessna 305C Bird Dog - "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

Cessna 208 - "Small Prop"

Convair 240 through 5800 - "Warbird/Vintage"

De Havilland Canada Beaver/Otter - "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otter - No Categories

Douglas DC-2/3/4/6/7 - "Warbird/Vintage"

Embraer Tucano- "Small Prop"

Fairchild M-62 - "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

Grumman Widgeon/Mallard/Albatross - "Warbird/Vintage"

Gyrocopters/Autogyros - "Small Prop" and "Helicopter"

Klemm Kl-35D - "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

Lockheed L-188 Electra - "Warbird/Vintage"

Lockheed Galaxy - "Cargo Aircraft"

Lockheed Hercules - "Cargo Aircraft"

Lockheed 104 Starfighter - "Vintage/Warbird"

Lockheed Starlifter - "Cargo Aircraft"

Luscombe 8 - "Small prop"and "Warbird/Vintage"

Mikoyan-Gurevich Mig-15/Mig-17 - "Vintage/Warbird"

North American Mustang - "Warbird/Vintage" Only

North American F-86 Sabre - "Vintage/Warbird"

Piaggio Avanti - No Categories

Pilatus PC-7/9/12 - "Small Prop"

Piper Cub/Grasshopper/Pacer/Colt - "Warbird/Vintage"

Piper PA-31 - All models "Small Prop"

Socata TBM-700 - "Small Prop"

Supermarine Spitfire - "Warbird/Vintage" Only

Swearingen SA226-T Merlin - No Categories

Yak 18 - "Small Prop" and "Warbird/Vintage"

Yak 52 - "Small Prop"

[Omar Alex Saffe]

T-6 are NOT small prop as most of those "big" WW2 fighters...

[Will M]

Please feel free to request additions or amendments to this list..

[CRAZY357]

I was confused over this also. Posted a question about a Piaggio Avanti and received several responses of what category to choose. I reuploaded my pic with small prop chosen and was accepted.

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6153057&nseq=0

Thanks for all the feedback.

Barry

[AJ]

Ollie, please do not create your own list. My list does not include the blatantly obvious as I do not want it to be five pages long.

If you wish for something added to the master list please ask!

[Brenden S]

Aj any chance to send a email to everyone who uploads to make it common knowledge?

[Dmmoore]

AJ,
Several versions of the Twin Beech (AKA Tin Bitch) that were military C-45, AT-11, AT17 (Army), CU45-J and SNB-1 (Navy) These were Warbirds / Classic.

The Beach 18 is the civilian version that was produced until 1969. :-P

Confusing, isn't it?

[AJ]

Not at all confusing Don, hopefully the uploader has spent a little bit research on the type. The Beech 18 and all the types you listed are all "Warbird/Vintage".

[Dmmoore]

Not at all confusing Don, hopefully the uploader has spent a little bit research on the type. The Beech 18 and all the types you listed are all "Warbird/Vintage".

Just to give you a hard time:

One of the Beech 18's I personally flew in 1965 / 67 was built in 1957. The owner picked it up new from the factory. There wasn't a military mark on it. I took to to Volpar where it was converted into a Tri-Gear Beech 18. I flew it a lot less after that as the owner could land it by himself after that. :smilewin:

Another was built in 1939 Also a Beech 18, civilian however it was converted to C-45 configuration during the war and back to Beech 18 (up graded to S model) after the war.

Not that it matters, its all in the eye of the beholder. :-P

[AJ]

I'll be honest Don, I have no idea the point you are trying to make.

Are you saying it must be ex-Military to be in the Warbird/Vintage category? That is simply not true as civilian aircraft fall in the "Vintage" part.

[Dmmoore]

I'll be honest Don, I have no idea the point you are trying to make.

Are you saying it must be ex-Military to be in the Warbird/Vintage category? That is simply not true as civilian aircraft fall in the "Vintage" part.

I've got to figure out how you catagorized things. Warbirds all or Vintage all. that's one huge catagory!

[AJ]

Don, here is a list of our categories:

Photo-Specific Categories:

Accident: Depict an accident or incident-related event?
Air to Air: Photo taken of one plane from another?
Airport: Depict an airport terminal, tower, etc.?
Cabin Shot: Depict the interior of an aircraft cabin?
Flight Deck: Depict the interior of the aircraft's cockpit?
Night Shot: Depict an aircraft in night/dusk/dawn lighting?
Wing View: Photo taken out a window over the wing?

Aircraft-Specific Categories:

Business Jet: Depict a business jet aircraft?
Cargo Plane: Depict a cargo aircraft?
Helicopter: Depict a helicopter?
Lighter-than-Air: Depict a balloon or blimp?
Small Prop: Depict a small prop plane (Cessna, etc.)?
Special Scheme: Celebratory or otherwise special scheme?
Warbird/Vintage: Depict a warbird or vintage aircraft?

Will you be uploading photos here?

[paulc]

AJ,

just a general comment about the small prop category - how about having 'any single / twin engined prop aircraft that does not fall into another category' instead of (cessna etc..)

[paulc]

AJ,

what is the most suitable category for an autgyro as they have both a small prop + rotors - have got 1 in the queue with both ticked

[AJ]

At the moment Helicopter+Small Prop Paul.

We are finalising the details for a 'General Aviation' category.

[brianw999]

Where do we stand with a military aircraft that would otherwise, in civilian use, be regarded as a business jet ?

Obviously it should be Genre = Military but do we still need bizjet to be ticked ?

[AJ]

Yes please Brian.

[LX-A343]

Yep, military AND bizjet have o be selected in such cases.

Cheerio

[paulc]

At the moment Helicopter+Small Prop Paul.

We are finalising the details for a 'General Aviation' category.


Aj,

thanks for that - just wish the screener who rejected my appeal knew it - rejection reason was 'helicopter only pls'

Will resubmit when i get a slot.

[seahawk]

I have corrected my mistake.

[photoid=6206169]

[paulc]

Seahawk,

many thanks - (blame the time zones) :)

[gatto-777]

Hi everybody.

I have some doubts with "warbird/vintage" category.

For example.. If I make an advance search in homesite I find F-15E Strike Eagle (severals) that have the category of "warbird category" and if I repeat the search looking just for Boeing F-15 I find a lot of F-15's meaning that may of them were not uploaded as "warbird/vintage".

the same happens with General Dynamics F-16 and others.

My question is... after reading this post... a F-15 or a F-16 are warbirds?... whats the meaning of this category?.. for example... a Rockwell B1-B Lancer.. is a warbird?... because is use for war ¿is that the critery?

thanks a lot.









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(http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?aircraft=Boeing%20F-15E)



United States - US Air Force (USAF) (http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?airline=United%20States%20-%20US%20Air%20Force%20%28USAF%29)
Boeing F-15E Strike Eagle (http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?aircraft=Boeing%20F-15E)

[Omar Alex Saffe]

Those are mistakes. any of F-15 or F-16 on service are NOT vintage/warbird. Only those on museums are.

Regards

[gatto-777]

Those are mistakes. any of F-15 or F-16 on service are NOT vintage/warbird. Only those on museums are.

Regards

Ahhhh great! that's all I needed to know.

Thanks a lot for your answer Omar :)

Gatto

[brianw999]

Air to Air tankers. Cargo or not ?

[AJ]

Air to Air tankers. Cargo or not ?
The 'C' in KC designated aircraft is for 'Transport', the 'K' was allocated for Tankers, however no stand alone Tankers were purchased so there are no 'K-' aircraft.
http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/missing-mds.html
The purpose of categories here is to narrow down searches so the question is would a user select 'Cargo Aircraft' to find air-to-air tankers? Probably not!

So I guess the answer is no! A C-135 select 'Cargo', a KC-135 do not!

[brianw999]

Thanks AJ.

[ollieholmes]

Is a Dragon Rapide small prop or not?

[mnazarinia]

Should I select VH-VQQ now as special scheme or normal?

Thanks,
Mehdi.

[AJ]

Ollie.....no.

Mehdi.....if that's the one with the new style billboard titles.....no.

[mnazarinia]

Hi AJ,

Yes, that's the one. Thanks for that.

[ollieholmes]

Can someone tell me what categorys to tick for a Miles Gemini? Is it small prop and warbird/Vintage?

How about a Pietenpol Air Camper? I only ticked small prop and it was rejected for categorys. How can an aeroplane built in 1991 be warbird vintage?

[brianw999]

To hopefully answer Ollies' question. My view is that a homebuilt 1991 Pietenpol Aircamper built using modern materials and with a national registry database entry ( i.e G-INFO etc. ) showing its date of build is not warbird/vintage, obviously because of the manufacture date...the trouble is that it looks like it should be because it has roots as far back as 1933. I don't even know if there are any 1933 originals flying ?

This is where the uploader can help the crew by leaving an explanatory note to screeners in their upload as to why they have selected, or not selected a particular category. The facility is there, use it. I know that the Aircamper isn't vintage because I have an interest in PFA homebuilt aircraft and GA aircraft. Other screeners may be more airliner oriented and not be aware of this.

[ollieholmes]

To hopefully answer Ollies' question. My view is that a homebuilt 1991 Pietenpol Aircamper built using modern materials and with a national registry database entry ( i.e G-INFO etc. ) showing its date of build is not warbird/vintage, obviously because of the manufacture date...the trouble is that it looks like it should be because it has roots as far back as 1933. I don't even know if there are any 1933 originals flying ?

This is where the uploader can help the crew by leaving an explanatory note to screeners in their upload as to why they have selected, or not selected a particular category. The facility is there, use it. I know that the Aircamper isn't vintage because I have an interest in PFA homebuilt aircraft and GA aircraft. Other screeners may be more airliner oriented and not be aware of this.

Brian,
There does not seem to be any origional Pietenpols on the G- reg but thats not to say they dont survive. Either foreign registerd or in museums.

[RCoulter]

Warbird/Vintage correct?

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=1977418

[ollieholmes]

In my eyes yes. They are definatly warbirds.

Warbird/Vintage correct?

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=1977418

[Omar Alex Saffe]

Warbird/Vintage correct?

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=1977418

Yes absolutly correct

[B757300]

Just a quick question.

On the Beechcraft T-1A Jayhawk, would the category "business jet" apply to this aircraft?

[AJ]

Just a quick question.

On the Beechcraft T-1A Jayhawk, would the category "business jet" apply to this aircraft?

Yes Please.

[B757300]

Thank You, AJ. :-)

[alwaysconcorde]

I've always been unsure about police registrations... civilian or military?

In Colombia Police aircraft have a PNC (Policia Nacional de Colombia) registration diferent from the civilian HK but sometimes the Police is not technically considered an "armed force" so I'm curious

Also because in the database photos of Colombia - Police some have been accepted with "Civilian" and some with "Military"...

Thanks for any imput on the matter

[AJ]

In most countries the Police Force is considered civilian.

The exceptions are countries under military rule which often utilise 'military police'.

For Colombia I believe they are civilian.

[seahawk]

Or even more complicated. Spain for example has a military police organisation "Guardia Civil" which belongs to the military and uses military regs on the aircraft.
But they also have various civil police services which use civil regs.

So if in doubt I would use the registration as a guideline.

[alwaysconcorde]

OK, I edited the pics I had in the queue going with civilian... mainly in consideration for the argument that police is generally thought as a civilian entity

Thanks guys!

[alwaysconcorde]

Quick question...

An Embraer Tucano is considered a small prop?

Thanks!

[AJ]

Quick question...

An Embraer Tucano is considered a small prop?

Thanks!
Yes!

[alwaysconcorde]

Thanks for the answer Anthony...

but I have another one....

An AC-47 should have the "Cargo" category selected? And I already checked "Warbird/Vintage", is that correct?

Thanks again!

[wrxflyer]

A Lockheed L-188A(F) Electra; is that a vintage aircraft or not.

A few weeks ago I had an instand add with a photo of this a/c from ALM (Antilian airlines), but this week I had a rejection for the same aircrafttype (LN-FOH from Fred Olsen), because of missing the vintage category; according to a screener comment.

Can anybody help me?
Is this a vintage a/c or not?

Freek

[brianw999]

A Lockheed L-188A(F) Electra; is that a vintage aircraft or not.


Yes as far as I am concerned, provided that the picture that you upload is not of an aircraft currently flying in service. If you do select warbird/vintage on aircraft like this then leave a note to the screeners with your reason why. We can always delete it if inappropriate and you have advised us that you're not sure.

[mnazarinia]

Hi All,

I have a photo of AMATEUR BUILT AIRCRAFT, JABIRU J400. I cannot find it under any of the aircraft category in the upload page, though JABIRU J400 exist in the database. Any help to locate this aircraft in the upload list is highly appreciated.

Cheers and Happy new year to All.

Mehdi.

[AJ]

I am not sure quite how that is a category question, however on the menus select:

Ultralight Aircraft >> Jabiru >> Jabiru J400

Cheers.

[mnazarinia]

Hi AJ,
Sorry to be honest I was not sure which thread I should post! Sorry about that and thanks for the prompt reply. Wish you all the best in the new year and although a bit late but Merry Xmas mate.
Cheers,
Mehdi.

[AJ]

No worries, you too mate.

[steve149c]

Hi All,

New to all this, and I apologise in advance if I have hijacked a thread. I normally take Military Aircraft, and I am abit confused with the Categories, if it is for example a Hercules - I get the cargo Category ticked. But what about if it is Eurofighter? Airliners - again same problem if only carrying passengers,

Do I therefore not tick a section when it doesn't apply?

Cheers

Steve

[alwaysconcorde]

A DHC-6 Twin Otter is a small prop?

[AJ]

Yes, many photos do not need any categories selected.

A DHC-6 Twin Otter is a small prop?
No.

[brianw999]

For military aircraft make certian that you select "military" as the genre. It does not always autofill as such.

[Top_Gun]

Yep, military AND bizjet have o be selected in such cases.

Cheerio

Regarding the C-21's(Learjets) and C-37A (Gulfstreams), now these are Military Bizjets, but do they also get Cargo checked because of their C designation or is that only for Heavy haulers like the C-130, C-17 and such?

If so, this needs to have Cargo checked
[photoid=6490425]

[AJ]

It's really only for the heavy haulers which is more in keeping with our viewers expectations.

[CRAZY357]

British Aerospace Jetstream 31, small prop?


Thanks, Barry

[AJ]

British Aerospace Jetstream 31, small prop?


Thanks, Barry

No, not a small prop.

[ErwinS]

British Aerospace Jetstream 31, small prop?


Thanks, Barry

Nope,she carries around 18 pax so no, not a small prop.

[CRAZY357]

Thanks guys.

Barry

[tomas_cubero]

Just want to know if the King Airs (any series) are Small Props or not. I know that this thread says No Categories but I have been getting mixed rejections for King Airs for not ticking Small Prop or ticking it.

Thanks!

[AJ]

Just want to know if the King Airs (any series) are Small Props or not. I know that this thread says No Categories but I have been getting mixed rejections for King Airs for not ticking Small Prop or ticking it.

Thanks!No they are not.

[tomas_cubero]

DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otter and its derivatives, small prop or not?

Thanks!

[LX-A343]

Assuming a Twin Otter is in a similar category as "De Havilland Canada Beaver/Otter", see original post.

[AJ]

DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otter and its derivatives, small prop or not?

Thanks!

Not.

Cheers.

[tomas_cubero]

Assuming a Twin Otter is in a similar category as "De Havilland Canada Beaver/Otter", see original post.

I actually did see the Beaver/Otter but then again these are older, smaller and single-engine aircraft, think this is a tougher one to decide.

EDIT: Thanks for the reply AJ, will have that in mind!

[LX-A343]

Not.

Cheers.
Every day you learn something new ;-)

[RCoulter]

This is warbird/vintage correct?
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=2527748

[Omar Alex Saffe]

Yes Ryan it's correct

[RCoulter]

Yes Ryan it's correct

Thanks Alex :)

[oe-vap]

DC-3 and DC4 i assume are vintage?
Lockheed Electra as well?
and what about Aero Commanders? Small prop or not?
"Flying Bulls" Alphajet Warbrid or not?
Thanks

[pdeboer]

What about these:
Luscombe 8
Cessna L-19/O-1 and Cessna 305C Bird Dog
Aeronca 7AC Champion
Klemm Kl-35D
Fairchild M-62
All small prop and vintage?

cheers, Pamela

[AJ]

DC-3 and DC4 i assume are vintage? - Yes
Lockheed Electra as well? - Yes
and what about Aero Commanders? Small prop or not? - Small Prop
"Flying Bulls" Alphajet Warbrid or not? - Not
Luscombe 8 - Yes
Cessna L-19/O-1 and Cessna 305C Bird Dog - Yes
Aeronca 7AC Champion - No
Klemm Kl-35D - Yes
Fairchild M-62 -Yes!

Thank guys.

[J_J]

Hello, I was wondering what categories should be selected for TP-01, the 757 for the Mexican Air Force. I'm guessing Military, but don't know if it is Business as well.

Thanks.

[brianw999]

Hello, I was wondering what categories should be selected for TP-01, the 757 for the Mexican Air Force. I'm guessing Military, but don't know if it is Business as well.

Thanks.

Military for sure as it's a Mexican Air Force plane.

Business ? Hmmm, probably not as it's a presidential aircraft but leave a note to screeners asking for it to be ticked in screening if required. Personally, I would accept either.

[LX-A343]

Military, yes. But, judging by other photos of gevernment owned civilian aircraft, do not select business jet. Other examples: Germany's A310, A340 in France, ...

Cheerio

[J_J]

Thank you both Bryan and Gerardo! Much appreciated.

Cheers!

[pdeboer]

Is Beechcraft D17S Staggerwing "warbird/vintage" and "small prop" ?

cheers, Pamela

[AJ]

Is Beechcraft D17S Staggerwing "warbird/vintage" and "small prop" ?

cheers, Pamela
Yes please.

[tomas_cubero]

Swearingen SA226-T Merlin (SW3), should be a small prop but just checking!

Thanks!

[AJ]

No, it is a similar size to a King Air, which has no categories.

[RCoulter]

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=2626200
Should this be Warbird/Vintage and/or Special Scheme?

[pdeboer]

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=2626200
Should this be Warbird/Vintage and/or Special Scheme?
I think you have your answer here ;-) http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?p=524662#post524662

[RCoulter]

I think you have your answer here ;-) http://forums.jetphotos.net/showthread.php?p=524662#post524662

Just saw that, thanks again Pamela :)

[RCoulter]

Would T-6's be considered warbird/vintage? http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=2670858

[AJ]

Would T-6's be considered warbird/vintage? http://www.jetphotos.net/viewqueued_b.php?id=2670858
Yes.

[RCoulter]

Yes.

Thanks AJ:-D

[jlnd]

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewreject_b.php?id=2681723

Before I send my picture I checked on database the categorie of Beech1900 registered N1900R. I have found that she was selected as "small prop" and "special scheme".
So I put the same informations but It do not seems to be correct.
What is your point of view ?

[LX-A343]

99 out of 3614 photos of a Beech 1900 in the db are marked a small prop, in other words less than 3%. Thess are mistakes in the database, which our db editors are constantly correcting.

Also, I found 5 photos of N1900R in the db, none marked as small prop.