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Top_Gun
05-18-2006, 12:45 PM
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Lockheed Martin Unveils 'Super Galaxy' Transport
Wed, 17 May '06

Say Hello To The C-5M
It's cheaper... more capable, and more dependable. That's what Lockheed-Martin says about the latest generation of C-5 Galaxy transports, the first of which was shown off at the company's plant in Marietta, GA this week.


Lockheed reports the C-5M "Super Galaxy", a modernized version of the venerable C-5, features new engines and new avionics. Its GE CF-6 engines -- developed in the commercial sector -- are capable of 22-percent more thrust, resulting in a 30-percent shorter takeoff roll and a 38-percent faster climb to initial altitude. Perhaps even more importantly... the Super Galaxy can carry a LOT more cargo.

The C-5 Avionics Modernization Program also adds an all-new cockpit, featuring a full glass-panel designed for all weather capabilities, and to take some of the workload off the flight crew.

"This C-5M is the first of a new fleet of C-5s that truly raises the bar -- capability is guaranteed, cost saving is guaranteed, and most importantly reliability is guaranteed," said Ralph D. Heath, executive vice president, Lockheed Martin and president, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics. "This aircraft represents a capability unique to the United States, and is an asset that truly defines 'global reach.' Today's C-5M takes a proven airframe and injects 21st century technology -- the result is a new era in strategic airlift."

The C-5 fleet, with more than 2 million flight hours, has been the backbone of strategic airlift in every military engagement from Vietnam through Operation Iraqi Freedom. With its estimated design-life of 40 years, the US Air Force estimates the next generation C-5 will save over $20 billion in future operations and support costs, while delivering over one million dollars' savings for every day of operation.

"The new capabilities brought to this aircraft assure that the strength of our country's strategic airlift capability continues unmatched into the future," said Heath. "As a cornerstone of our country's strategic airlift capability, the C-5 shapes national military objectives, provides combat power, humanitarian relief, natural disaster assistance and civil support where and when needed."

Over the next several years, Lockheed Martin will modernize 111 C-5s under a contract with the Air Force... which says it needs the planes as fast as Lockheed can build them.

"The bottom line is that we need these machines," said Gen. Norton Schwartz, United States Transportation Command Commander. "We need them re-engined and out of maintenance just as fast as possible. What you're doing is proving its worth: raising the C-5's mission-capable rate to our minimum goal of 75 percent. For me, 75 percent is the floor, not the ceiling."


Lockheed Martin's Avionics Modernization Program (AMP) and Reliability Enhancement and Re-engining (RERP) programs together yield a modernized C-5M. The RERP centerpiece is the new General Electric CF6-80C2 commercial engine.

MaxPower
05-18-2006, 01:13 PM
Great. Hercs Down, KC-135's down, C-5's down, One more to Go : the BUFF's !!!!!!

Good luck with the C-5 SuGa :D

uy707
05-18-2006, 03:03 PM
A good move has come true at last.
Alain

Cam
05-18-2006, 08:22 PM
How does this new C-5 compare to the C-17? Which is the better aircraft?

screaming_emu
05-18-2006, 08:25 PM
How does this new C-5 compare to the C-17? Which is the better aircraft?

in what way?

I've heard the range on the C-17 sucks, but then again I've seen one land in about half of a 4,000 ft runway. Different aircraft for different missions I say. Man I'd like to see the improved flight deck on this thing though. I will miss the extremely distinctive C-5 whine though.

MaxPower
05-18-2006, 08:38 PM
What kind of CF-6's are these engines and how much thrust added to increase its performance anyway ?


Edit: Disregard this post. = General Electric CF6-80C2 commercial engine.

FlyingPhotog
05-18-2006, 08:45 PM
I've seen one land in about half of a 4,000 ft runway.

I saw a demonstration of that in Houston last fall. Freakin sweet!

What kind of CF-6's are these engines and how much thrust added to increase its performance anyway ?

It's all in the article...

"are capable of 22-percent more thrust, resulting in a 30-percent shorter takeoff roll and a 38-percent faster climb to initial altitude"

YYZPICS
05-18-2006, 08:53 PM
Great new model, the name "Super Galaxy" is awsome.

MaxPower
05-18-2006, 08:58 PM
Too all who knows about it, What is the purpose with the orange spike on its nose ? Im only aware of it that it's part on new testings and all that, but thats about it. And why the colour of orange ?

Chris@YYZ
05-18-2006, 10:06 PM
awesome name for an awesome plane :D

Top_Gun
05-19-2006, 03:44 PM
Too all who knows about it, What is the purpose with the orange spike on its nose ? Im only aware of it that it's part on new testings and all that, but thats about it. And why the colour of orange ?

I believe it's a pitot tube to get readings. Most test aircraft have these funky tubes coming out of the nose during testing. Not sure of the reason for it to be orange. It's not like someone is going to walk into a Pitot tube of a C-5 ;)



I've heard the range on the C-17 sucks, but then again I've seen one land in about half of a 4,000 ft runway. I will miss the extremely distinctive C-5 whine though.
“One C-17 would have saved us from using four C-130s,” Colonel Bossert said. “And that one C-17 could have done in one week what the four C-130s did in about two and half weeks.”

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123017857

from what I read on the US Military site, the C-17 has great range. The USAFE is currently using C-130E's which are so old most of them have wing structer problems. The commander in charge of the ARW for USAFE wants to replace their Hercs with C-17s. They've had to cancel relief trips because of the lack of good carriers.

Then you have Canada getting some C-17s, so I wouldn't think they could waist money on an aircraft that has lousy range.


I love the distinctive C-5 sound, had one in here last night that I missed. :(

MaxPower
05-19-2006, 04:01 PM
From what I have researched, The range of the galaxies is farther then the globemasters...

seventwo
05-19-2006, 04:44 PM
From what I have researched, The range of the galaxies is farther then the globemasters...
And Galaxies look a hell of a lot better!

Top_Gun
05-19-2006, 05:04 PM
From what I have researched, The range of the galaxies is farther then the globemasters...
C-5A
5,940 miles (5,165 nautical miles) empty

C-17
5,200 nautical miles empty

www.fas.org & www.af.mil

that appears pretty close but that info could be old

MaxPower
05-19-2006, 05:13 PM
And Galaxies look a hell of a lot better!

And definitely whines better too.

Turn on the volumes on these two.

http://www.flightlevel350.com/video_streaming.php?id=4869

http://www.flightlevel350.com/video_streaming.php?id=3770

;););)

C-5A
5,940 miles (5,165 nautical miles) empty

C-17
5,200 nautical miles empty
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that appears pretty close but that info could be old

According to [url="http://www.af.mil"]www.af.mil (http://www.af.mil)

The C-5 has 6,320 nautical miles (empty)

Source: http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=84

seventwo
05-19-2006, 07:57 PM
And definitely whines better too.

Turn on the volumes on these two.

http://www.flightlevel350.com/video_streaming.php?id=4869

http://www.flightlevel350.com/video_streaming.php?id=3770

;););)



Yeah man, cool vids. Sounds just like I remember it, from the demo I saw one do at an airshow a few years ago. It was insane how they turned the thing right in the climbout, I didnt know a C-5 could do that stuff. Cant waint till the next westover AFB show so I can see the C-5 demo again. It was really funny though, how the C-17 demo that they had next made fun of the C-5s. lol

Top_Gun
05-20-2006, 12:32 PM
According to www.af.mil (http://www.af.mil)

The C-5 has 6,320 nautical miles (empty)

Source: http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=84

Thanks, wierd they have different figures. I also find it funny how on the C-17 they put "unlimited with inflight refueling", no duh....

MaxPower
05-20-2006, 12:52 PM
Thanks, wierd they have different figures. I also find it funny how on the C-17 they put "unlimited with inflight refueling", no duh.... Yeah pretty much. But that would mean its the same with th e other aircrafts since they are also equipped with refuelling probe. Weird indeed.

NBGTowerGuy
05-28-2006, 08:38 PM
Compairing the C-17 to the C-5 is like comparing apples to oranges. The C-17 was never ment to replace the C-5, it was made to replace the C-141, which couldn't carry a Main battle tank like the Abrams tank to the front lines. The C5 is still ment to be the backbone of the AMC mission, were the C-17 is ment to feed forces on the front lines, similar to the mission of the C-130. As far as performance, I have seen an empty C17 stop in 2500 feet, and have seen an empty C5 stop in 4000 feet. so as far as performance goes, they are both very capable aircraft performing similar but different roles in the logisitics mission.

oulton35
05-29-2006, 11:50 AM
Not sure of the reason for it to be orange. It's not like someone is going to walk into a Pitot tube of a C-5 ;)



From what I have read and seen on the TV, a lot of test facilities colour any parts that are in the aircraft for testing only, orange. this would include items like the nose on the C5M and any monitering equipment on-board.
IIRC, there was a documentary on the Comanche a couple of years ago, where you could see quite a lot of orange equipment, and that was the explanation they gave.

MaxPower
05-29-2006, 12:04 PM
Thanks Dan. I get the orange colour as a sign of "new" equipments in trial....

It's not like someone is going to walk into a Pitot tube of a C-5 Hahaha LOL..

Crunk415balla
05-29-2006, 11:24 PM
Looks nice, C-5's stop at Moffet all the time, I hope I see one of these come in.