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tommyalf

12-29-2002, 02:43 AM

More and more, it looks like N. Korea is a much great threat then Iraq. So, what do you think will happen with them? They just kicked out the U.N inspectors, there started their nuclear programs back up, and their moving weapons into the DMZ. I see a few options to open us with some unpleasant outcomes.

1. Preemptive bombing of their reactors.
"Would most likely start an all out war."

2. Strong economic sanctions with the threat of preemptive bombing of their reactors.
"Things will stay as they are and within 6 months N. Korea will have a number of nuclear bombs."

3. A similar resolution like Iraq demanding the inspectors go back in and that N. Korea dismantles its WMD programs.
"Will lead to a U.S first strike with N. Korea possibly striking back at Soul with Nuclear, Biological, Chemical, or heavy artillery"

4. Economic sanctions with no threat of military actions.
"N. Korea is able to develop a number of nuclear weapons and uses them as bargaining chips to lift sanctions."

I feel the U.S will push for similar tactics with N. Korea like we're doing with Iraq. Although I feel N. Korea will not relent and that after Iraq, war with N. Korea will follow. Frankly, war with N. Korea was and is just a matter of time. Even during Clinton's years, N. Korea was a cinder box. It was only Clinton's 1994 agreement that things simmered down and look what N. Korea did with that agreement.

FlyingTexan

12-29-2002, 05:18 AM

How ‘bout we send Anna Nichole Smith over there?

NWA_Flyer757

12-29-2002, 05:42 AM

ROFL clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif

Actually I think N. Korea doesn't have the guts to do anything to use. Look what happened to Japan. images/smiles/icon_sad.gif

But see if the did, well it would be a stupid move on their part, and honestly have no clue what we would do. uhoh.gif

FlyingTexan

12-29-2002, 06:39 AM

Hell, throw in Jim Traficant too!

Aeronautics

12-29-2002, 01:56 PM

It's too early to say how this will develop in the future. There is for 5 year a thread that Iraq can make nuclear weapons, but they still haven't. I think it's too easy to say that if you have the technology to make something, you really can make it. Because that is not true. Theoreticly it is very easy to make a nuclear weapon (I know even how). But in pratice it give lots of problems.

I think the world is a bit hyper about North-Korea.

Let it be for a while (at maximum take economical sanctions), and see what the future will give. Even if they get a nuclear weapon they won't use it. Every leader knows the consequences of this. That's what even Saddam Hussein understanded.

MerchantVenturer

12-30-2002, 01:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FlyingTexan:
How ‘bout we send Anna Nichole Smith over there?
Hell, throw in Jim Traficant too!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who are they? images/smiles/icon_confused.gif

tommyalf

12-30-2002, 02:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MerchantVenturer:
Who are they? images/smiles/icon_confused.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's just say you wouldn't want to be stuck in a car with both of them on a long trip. They don't represent the best America has to offer.

hkgspotter1

12-31-2002, 05:31 AM

Leave them alone is what I say. The only time N. Korea is dangerous is when they are pushed into something and that is what America is doing.

I'm happy to see that S Korea is not following the USA this time and is planning to have direct talks with N. Korea. The last thing we want is the Koreas at war.

Bush is fine sitting in the White House but us over in Asia are no so happy shake.gif

Polaris

12-31-2002, 06:14 AM

The reason Iraq is (maybe) nuclear free is that Israel tucked 6 F-16's under a departing El Al 707 flying over Jordan and diverted to an Iraqi nuclear facility under construction. It was leveled. End of problem for a while. I wish I new which year but it was a few before the Gulf War.

Everyone knows that N. Korea can not back itself. To make such a move at the moment means either the threat is implied or they are backed by someone who may give them the confidence.

I think its an effort to splinter US foreign policy and resources. Pakistan/India, N & S Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan and now West Africa. The message is that if someone been bothering you, now's the time to deal with them. What will the US see in the mirror?

[ December 31, 2002 01:17 AM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Kirk Webber ]

MerchantVenturer

12-31-2002, 11:49 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tom:
Let's just say you wouldn't want to be stuck in a car with both of them on a long trip. They don't represent the best America has to offer.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks, Tom. You've told me who they are not, but who are they? I am intrigued.

[ December 31, 2002 06:50 AM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by MerchantVenturer ]

Aeronautics

12-31-2002, 01:35 PM

An important difference between Iraq and North-Korea is the dependance on the outer world. Iraq has oil. It still have income, so it can buy food. Iraq has at the moment one of the strongest economics of the Middle-East.

North-Korea instead has no natural source and depends on import and international support. Economics are not going strong and there's also lack of food. Norht-Korea cannot just fighting a war, or even making problems with the international world. That would mean its own destruction.

tommyalf

12-31-2002, 02:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MerchantVenturer:
Originally posted by Tom:
Let's just say you wouldn't want to be stuck in a car with both of them on a long trip. They don't represent the best America has to offer.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks, Tom. You've told me who they are not, but who are they? I am intrigued.

Jim Traficant was an Ohio Congressman who recently was convicted while in office of bribery, racketeering and tax evasion. Now what makes Traficant an interesting character was the way he defended himself in Congress. He threatened to kick fellow Congressmen in the balls on live T.V, broke out into song during his defense, and did some other interesting stuff during his defense.

Anna Nicole is somewhat of an American celebrity (and I use celebrity loosely) who was once in Playboy but now has her own T.V show like the Osbornes, but since Playboy she gained about 100 pounds and has no IQ what so ever. BTW she also married an 89 year old billionaire because she loved him laff.gif Do a search on Google you can find lots of stuff on both of these two. No nuclear weapon could do the damage these two could do if we unleashed them in N. Korea.

FlyingTexan

01-01-2003, 02:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MerchantVenturer:
Who are they?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

James A. Traficant, Jr. – One of the more stellar characters making up the American landscape. Mr. Traficant and his bird’s nest toupee were indicted as sheriff of Mahoning County, Ohio in 1983 for bribery and racketeering. Went on to serve as United States Representative in Congress (Democrat-Ohio) until being expelled this past summer – for, you guessed it – bribery and racketeering. As Congressman, Traficant took full advantage of “One Minute Speech.” One of the many privileges of being a congressman is the ability to have 60 seconds of the floor to talk about anything – and in his years in congress, Traficnat did! Excerpts include “Mr. Speaker, someone at the White House is smoking something” and “Mr. Speaker, the IRS needs a rectal exam” – Traficant always concluded his famous one minute speeches with “Beam Me Up Scotty!”

In 2002, the Honorable Traficant ran for a Congressional seat from Federal Prison. Isn’t America Great???

Anna Nichole Smith – Obtuse Texan with intelligence of a Jim Traficant’s toupee. Actually, her breast size is larger than her IQ, yet smaller than that of her late husband’s wealth. This 26 year old stripper married the 86 year old BILLIONARE J. Howard Marshall III. He croaked 13 months later and ever since his sons and Anna’s lawyers have been getting rich. With great embarrassment, I confess Anna Nichole Smith lived four blocks from me growing up in the 1980’s.

aerpix

01-01-2003, 08:03 AM

The more North Korea is put under pressure from a certain country we all know very well, the more dangerous it will become. Why not just leave it on its own. The country has scarce resources, and needs international help to survive.

So the solution will be amalgamation with South Korea to form one stronger, and more peaceful country. That can only be done with international help. And I mean help, not war.

The very well known country has no right, whatsoever, to tell North Korea what it has to do, or to go against it. BTW, the same is valid for Iraq!

These countries are sovereign, a fact a certain country does not seem to respect. So stop this idiotic war driving and help in peaceful ways.

I am on my best way to becoming anti-US!

Regards,
Peter

[ January 01, 2003 03:04 AM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by aerpix ]

MerchantVenturer

01-01-2003, 12:11 PM

Tom and Flying Texan,

Thank you for the information on Traficant and Smith.
Interesting!!

Happy New Year.

Joey

01-02-2003, 06:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quoteThe more North Korea is put under pressure from a certain country we all know very well, the more dangerous it will become. Why not just leave it on its own. The country has scarce resources, and needs international help to survive.

I'm assuming the "certain country" would be the USA? So, if everybody just left North Korea all alone everybody would be ok? Kinda reminds me of Nazi Germany back in the 1930's - "oh, we'll all be all right if we just leave Hitler alone." nonono2.gif

For what it's worth, nobody here in America wants to go to war with anybody!

Also keep in mind that peace is a two-way street - both sides have to want peace. North Korea has a role to play, too.

[ January 02, 2003 01:54 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Joey ]

cicadajet

01-03-2003, 12:13 AM

How exactly is North Korea going to join South Korea?
South Korea has a great economy. Is Pyongyang going to give up its "sovereignty"? That reclusive Stalinist regime where all the resources go to the military? Is starvation the desired outcome of their economic model?

"That country" you refer to is the one that had been providing the majority of aid for North Korea all this time. - as it did for Afghanistan. Maybe another country, maybe yours, should support North Korea's millions of people for awhile, - with no questions and no strings attached of course.

Or maybe Japan and South Korea and the rest of Asia should just start up their own nuclear programs....

ATLcenter

01-05-2003, 02:45 PM

I doubt N. Korea has the balls ahem gts to do anything besides saying 'we'll push the button, goddanm it!' What would they do? Are there still sanctions on Japan from World war Two? I heard they cannot attack another country first, but is that still in place?

By the way, what would happen if some one were to go and blast a nuke under water? Would it send a tsunami everywhere or what? Hmmm...