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IntheShade
11-10-2002, 09:23 PM
Date: Nov 10th 2002

Time: 02:37 P.M.

Location: NorthWestern Tarrant County; Texas

Direction of Flight: North/NorthWest

Altitude: FL330 (estimated)

Other: Appeared to be leaving two contrails

Could anyone please supply me with the registration?
I need to log it in my Spotters Handbook.

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<FONT COLOR="black" SIZE="1">[ November 10, 2002 04:42 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by IntheShade ]</font>

MerchantVenturer
11-10-2002, 10:01 PM
No, sorry I can't. Hope someone can help you though.

Jorge
11-10-2002, 10:31 PM
hmm could it be N499FE? Charlie, Charlie, Charlie*sigh*, couldnt you have just radioed the Captain and asked? The time is unclear, please use GMT images/smiles/icon_razz.gif

<FONT COLOR="black" SIZE="1">[ November 10, 2002 05:39 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Jorge ]</font>

radarbeam
11-11-2002, 12:52 AM
Are you one of those chemtrails believer?

Chris Kilroy
11-11-2002, 01:20 AM
Believe this or not, he's actually a 727 Captain for FedEx. images/smiles/icon_eek.gif

SST2707
11-11-2002, 03:59 AM
... and again I am totally confused. images/smiles/icon_confused.gif images/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Ramp Pilot
11-11-2002, 07:34 AM
Date: Nov 10th 2002

Time: 07:13 P.M.

Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Direction of flight: North

Altitude: FL330 (estimated)

Other: Appeared to be leaving two contrails.

The evidence is overwhelming. It must be the same airplane. Someone please hurry up with that registraqtion.

radarbeam
11-12-2002, 01:16 AM
A FedEx 727 captain? shake.gif This is sad coming from an individual who's supposed to be a professional.

Viva UPS! images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Ramp Pilot
11-12-2002, 06:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by radarbeam:
A FedEx 727 captain? shake.gif This is sad coming from an individual who's supposed to be a professional.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So what are you saying? That all airline pilots (or professionals in general for that matter) have to be serious all the time? Get real.

Pipe Organ
11-12-2002, 01:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by radarbeam:
A FedEx 727 captain? shake.gif This is sad coming from an individual who's supposed to be a professional.

Viva UPS! images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe, I guess ITS can handle a bit anymosity from your part. images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

A friendly(!) advice from those who know him longer: Read between the lines, don´t condamn him because of his different diction and why not learning something besides ?!

PO

radarbeam
11-12-2002, 03:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ramp Pilot:
So what are you saying? That all airline pilots (or professionals in general for that matter) have to be serious all the time? Get real.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, but I would expect an airline captain to act like a 14 year old kid. There's a difference between having some fun and acting like an immature kid.

IntheShade
11-13-2002, 02:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by radarbeam:
No, but I would expect an airline captain to act like a 14 year old kid. There's a difference between having some fun and acting like an immature kid.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is it about Plane Spotters that guts them of any humor?

Why do they take themselves soooooooooo seriously?

I think anyone who runs around looking at planes is acting like a 14 yr. old kid.

Truth is I think most Plane Spotters need a hobby.

Ever fly a kite?

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<FONT COLOR="black" SIZE="1">[ November 12, 2002 09:10 PM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by IntheShade ]</font>

radarbeam
11-13-2002, 04:08 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IntheShade:
What is it about [b]Plane Spotters that guts them of any humor?

Why do they take themselves soooooooooo seriously?

I think anyone who runs around looking at planes is acting like a 14 yr. old kid.

Truth is I think most Plane Spotters need a hobby.

Ever fly a kite?
QUOTE]


Too bad I don't go plane spotting. How do you feel after insulting a good ..oh.. 50% of the board members?


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Robert
11-13-2002, 05:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntheShade:
What is it about Plane Spotters that guts them of any humor?

Why do they take themselves soooooooooo seriously?

I think anyone who runs around looking at planes is acting like a 14 yr. old kid.

Truth is I think most Plane Spotters need a hobby.

Ever fly a kite?

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Ummm I believe most of the people here like to look at planes probably Chris included..
And in case you forgot your on a website which has pictures of those flying things called airplanes, in order to take some photos the photographers had to "stop" the planes right????????????
And your a pilot??
I find that hard to swallow.

JAKE
11-13-2002, 07:15 AM
I prefer acting like a 14 years old kid and catching a cold while spotting planes instead of being mature and sitting at home in front of the TV with a can of Bud’s and a cigarette and getting lung cancer.

And I am even more sick and childish: After seeing 1000s of aircraft taking off from 36L @Beijing Capital Airport, I still think it’s a miracle that these beasts fly (and I’ve seen everything from C172 to An225 here).

Aaaand...yes: I have some other hobbies.

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JB

Jorge
11-13-2002, 07:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntheShade:
What is it about Plane Spotters that guts them of any humor?

Why do they take themselves soooooooooo seriously?

I think anyone who runs around looking at planes is acting like a 14 yr. old kid.

Truth is I think most Plane Spotters need a hobby.

Ever fly a kite?

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Charles,

1. Maybe because you like to insult them is why they take themselves seriously.

2. I think anyone who is irrevernt to others because of their hobby is acting like a High School Freshman.

3. Truth is YOU need hobby other than surfing internet forums

4. Ever jump in a lake?

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Jorge
11-13-2002, 07:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Robert:
And your a pilot??
I find that hard to swallow.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Robert he is a pilot, you cant tell by the ego? I actually talked to Shady in a Chat room once, and right away his ego proved he was a pilot. He is the stereotypical cargo pilot, rude and with an ego so big, rumor is, that when he boards his aircraft his ego is so big he has to enter through the cargo doors. If people on this board would stop viewing his posts or responding to his posts his ego would not be able to stand it and he would find elsewhere to feed his ego, but as long as he can stir up contraversy and we feed his ego he is probaly going to stay!

<FONT COLOR="black" SIZE="1">[ November 13, 2002 02:32 AM: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Jorge ]</font>

IntheShade
11-13-2002, 03:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JAKE:
I prefer acting like a 14 years old kid and catching a cold while spotting planes instead of being mature and sitting at home in front of the TV with a can of Bud’s and a cigarette and getting lung cancer.

And I am even more sick and childish: After seeing 1000s of aircraft taking off from 36L @Beijing Capital Airport, I still think it’s a miracle that these beasts fly (and I’ve seen everything from C172 to An225 here).

Aaaand...yes: I have some other hobbies.

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JB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Elwood

My point exactly.

Who doesn't enjoy watching a plane?

From the start of time it has been the dream of man to fly. I ask--how many other pursuits are so ingrained in the concious of man? I dare say no other.

The ancients did not dream of skyscrapers, automobiles, televisions, telephones, radios. But flight was in thier soul.

Even today watch a pilot and even though he flies for a job, there is enjoyment in watching a passing plane.

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Jorge---I post on two Forums and average less than two post per day.

You have no sense of humor and I feel sorry for you. I imagine you so rigid that you are offended by the dial tone of your phone when you pick it up to make a call.

Of all the people you really need a hobby.

Hope to see you in the chat room soon if there is room for both of us. laff.gif laff.gif

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MerchantVenturer
11-13-2002, 03:49 PM
ITS,

In the UK you would be known as a sh*t stirrer.
This is a definite and specific genre of humour and an acquired taste, hence some of the posters here don't like your particular flavour.

Keep it up and let's hope others can read between your lines. I'm not certain that I can but I'm having a damn good try. images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Robert
11-13-2002, 08:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jorge:
Robert he is a pilot, you cant tell by the ego? I actually talked to Shady in a Chat room once, and right away his ego proved he was a pilot. He is the stereotypical cargo pilot, rude and with an ego so big, rumor is, that when he boards his aircraft his ego is so big he has to enter through the cargo doors. If people on this board would stop viewing his posts or responding to his posts his ego would not be able to stand it and he would find elsewhere to feed his ego, but as long as he can stir up contraversy and we feed his ego he is probaly going to stay!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I know several pilots, my CFI was actually a cargo pilot once.. But he doesnt make fun of the guys who sit out at the airport all day long and watch planes saying that are acting like kids when in fact it would be the person making fun of the "kids" who is acting rather childish.
I know a 757 pilot who likes to watch planes..




I find ITS rather annoying and not funny.


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Robert
11-13-2002, 08:22 PM
Maybe we should start a forum wide ITS BAN!!

PolishAir42
11-14-2002, 03:08 AM
Such an intelligent thread.. images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

IntheShade
11-14-2002, 04:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Robert:
Maybe we should start a forum wide ITS BAN!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Why don't you go jump into a waterfall down by the river?

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Robert
11-14-2002, 04:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntheShade:

Why don't you go jump into a waterfall down by the river?

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Why dont YOU come up with something original.
(OR at leastfunny..)

Robert
11-14-2002, 04:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PolishAir42:
Such an intelligent thread.. images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Such an intelligent thread starter eh?

IntheShade
11-14-2002, 05:01 AM
Well this is hard to top:

"Life is a waterfall
We drink from the river,
Then we turn around and put up our walls

Swimming through the void
We hear the word,
We lost ourselves,
But we find it all?"

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Robert
11-14-2002, 05:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntheShade:
Well this is hard to top:

"Life is a waterfall
We drink from the river,
Then we turn around and put up our walls

Swimming through the void
We hear the word,
We lost ourselves,
But we find it all?"

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its a song genius..

Robert
11-14-2002, 06:09 AM
My horoscope for today:

Leo - Obnoxious people are just looking for a reaction. Speak resolutely to the outer professional and watch the inner brat vanish. Leo is a master at calming down a jumpy situation.


I dont know what the rest of it means but it says something about obnoxious people and well.. you know!!
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JAKE
11-14-2002, 06:58 AM
ITS…

OK…then we have the same understanding. And no problem with your ego or the little poet inside you, pal images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif . Yes…I love plane spotting, but I don’t make a dogma out of it. And flying is really something…

Back to the initial post…and I am not kidding.

On 27-Oct-2002 around 11:00 hrs I saw in the skies over Beijing a plane with 4 contrails and the shape of a MD8x (but apparently bigger). It was FL300 or so. I am (almost) sure that it was an IL62. But which airline operates this monster and flies over Chinese territory? I don’t need the tail-number and the colour of the first officer’s underwear. The airline would be ok for me.

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JB

SST2707
11-14-2002, 07:04 AM
I'm still confused.

I'll go back to Fluid Mechanics homework now. http://www.jetphotos.net/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

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IntheShade
11-15-2002, 04:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Robert:
Its a song genius..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, and it changed my life.

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Robert
11-15-2002, 06:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntheShade:
Yes, [b]and it changed my life.

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You probably dont even know who wrote it, personal friends of mine actually. SOAD..
(System Of A Down.)


So go back to you bold and useless posts and remain in the shade.

JAKE
11-15-2002, 08:31 AM
Peace, pals... Peace.

Since life is like water...


"Every night I go to sleep
The blues fall down like rain
Every night I go to sleep
The blues fall down like rain
Taking pills, cheap whiskey
Just to try to ease the pain


Well it's hard to gamble
When you lose every bet
Hard to save money
When you're twenty years in debt
The blues is falling
Falling down on me like rain
I'm gonna take a shotgun now people
And disconnect my brain


I made some mistakes
Had some bad breaks
Now my mind don't work
And my whole body aches
The blues is falling
Falling down on me like rain
My life is like water
Just swirling down the drain


Well I tried standin' up
I keep on falling down
Tried standing up
Keep on fallin' down
Everywhere I go
The blues is all around"

JB

Aeronautics
11-15-2002, 01:36 PM
Well said JB!

Katamarino
11-17-2002, 03:20 AM
Shadey, you're a genius! images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Katamarino
11-17-2002, 03:23 AM
BUT geniuses do often lack desire for people skills (not the same as actually lacking them note).

Terry Schneider
11-26-2002, 01:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JAKE:
On 27-Oct-2002 around 11:00 hrs I saw in the skies over Beijing a plane with 4 contrails and the shape of a MD8x (but apparently bigger). It was FL300 or so. I am (almost) sure that it was an IL62. But which airline operates this monster and flies over Chinese territory? I don’t need the tail-number and the colour of the first officer’s underwear. The airline would be ok for me.

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JB<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Could it be Air Koryo?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/295947/M/

IntheShade
11-27-2002, 06:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Terry Schneider:
Could it be Air Koryo?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/295947/M/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Not sure Terry, but I just saw him again in the Mid South Area.

Joey
11-27-2002, 07:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IntheShade:

Not sure Terry, but I just saw him again in the Mid South Area.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Must be headed this way (Atlanta).

I'll keep my eyes peeled. images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

JAKE
11-27-2002, 09:08 AM
Terry wrote: "Could it be Air Koryo?"


Very likely, yes! But hardly departing from a Chinese location. They use 737s for flights into and from China.

JB

Terry Schneider
11-27-2002, 11:26 AM
No intention of disputing that statement, but the photo in the link is an Air Koryo IL-62 taxiing to depart Beijing 36L earlier this month. Unusual flight perhaps.