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aerpix
04-15-2003, 04:00 PM
Hey, you guys have read hundreds of posts from me, and have realized that I quite frankly speak out my opinion. I also like arguing, and some of my posts have been very critical on the USA. Since this board is in the USA and run by Americans, I acknowledge that some of you do not like this, above all Lord Chris. In one of his last replies he put up the threat of a ban for me.

I just wanted to let you all know that no one is going to ban me from a board more than once. So far I have only been banned once, in a German board. All other boards are happy to see a diversified opinion.

So if I am going to be banned here, I will not come back, and have all my photos removed from the database. Goodbye then, JP.Net.

Chris, it is up to you to loose a valuable contributor just for frankly saying his opinion.

Regards, and bye to all, should this be my last post I can type.

Peter aka aerpix

Greg
04-15-2003, 04:08 PM
It's not your view. You said he sucked so he banned you. It's in the rules that you have to respect the staff. You pictures and photography advice will be missed.

aerpix
04-15-2003, 04:16 PM
So far I still seem to be able to post. I basically respect everybody, including staff here. But someone who condemns a whole religion just sucks, regardless who it is.

Regards,
Peter

JoeJoe440
04-15-2003, 04:17 PM
Aerpix, as much as i dont like what you post here it would be a shame to see you go.

Just lay off the bush bashing and you'll be fine :D

Joe, 8)

Greg
04-15-2003, 04:18 PM
When your name goes off the memberlist you are gone. if you want withdrawl advice I'll be glad to give some... :)

Chris Kilroy
04-15-2003, 04:25 PM
I don't have any problem with "Bush bashing," or nearly anything else for that matter. There are far more people here than just Aerpix who bash Bush, and nobody has threatened to ban any of them. In fact, the only person to have ever been suspended or banned from this forum agrees with me on almost everything.

However, every one of Peter's posts is inflammatory, insulting, and filled with double-standards and mischaractarizations of what others have said. Not to mention personal insults such as "you suck!," which is a bannable offense if said to anyone, not just a moderator.

Posting outright lies, calling all Americans "idiots" because they don't agree with your views, and making numerous posts for the express purpose of inflaming other users will get you nowhere on this board.

This is where my problem lies.

If you feel you are too good for this site, or above the rules, to which everyone else (including many, many with whom I disagree) have abided by, that's fine.

Test me.

aerpix
04-15-2003, 04:53 PM
You and me, Chris, come from areas in this world where the right of free speech and free opinion rule. I am grateful that I have this right, and you should be, too, Chris. Many people do not have this right, too many.

So what I am doing here is exactly that, writing my true opinion. That is valid for each and every post, be it aviation, photography or poliltics.

If this is where your problem is, Chris, then you can probably not be helped. It is up to you whether you want to remove me, but I will not agree to a ban. Either you accept the right of free speech, or you remove me once and forever.

I do not test you, but I will continue to reply to your, or any other's posts that I feel need a reply. The decision is yours.

Regards,
Peter

NWA 757 351
04-15-2003, 06:01 PM
Respectfully pix, you have your right to your opinion, and I respect that, but the overkill of your posts are what is revolting to say the least. I could care less that you are anti Bush, as you have a right to be that way. Spewing mud at ALL the US however is overkill. :nonono:

Virgin777
04-15-2003, 06:29 PM
OK..... HERE GOES ....

Peter first off , you really produce some very good images ... of that i have no problem !

what i do have a problem with is this... it seams to me you cannot stand to be critisized .... we all need to be critisized in one way or another... thats how we learn , that is unless that you are the only person in existance that is perfect !
The other site you were banned from ... may i ask why you were banned and did you learn anything from it ?

Peter you really need to take it easy ... i really dont want to see you stop uploading to JP however there are more diplomatic ways of expressing your self... dont take everything so personal and for gods sake you dont need to argue ... you see whats happend here .. irts all come to a head and people are going to fall out .......

ok.... there is a time and a place for arguments and arrogance ... im affraid an aviation forum is not the place !

As i said .... i do not have a problem with your images... just please cool it....

All said Tony

Richard
04-15-2003, 06:47 PM
Aerpix, I value your posts well above that of anyone else. Not just because we share similar views, but how you eloquently make and support your statements. You are by far in no way nearly as offensive as other users on this forum. OK, sometimes I may not agree with some of your statements but you have the right to make them nonetheless and your voice is a welcome defiance in the Off Topic forum of the hard-liners. I will sorely miss you if you go. :(

Chris, you did call PK246 an idiot and have grossly disrespected a religion you know nothing about. I have also sent you personal messages about NWA Flyer757 (now DeltaCappy) and JeffM who have made statements by far more insulting to a wide range of fellow posters.

By the way Peter, your pictures are great! Both on this site and on your personal site. Aerpix.net is a great site!

Chris Kilroy
04-15-2003, 07:38 PM
I have also sent you personal messages about NWA Flyer757 (now DeltaCappy) and JeffM who have made statements by far more insulting to a wide range of fellow posters.

.. and you don't see JeffM posting around these parts anymore, do you? :roll:

Richard
04-15-2003, 07:39 PM
He was banned? Well thank you then. I retract that part of my statement.

PANC
04-15-2003, 07:42 PM
These shots are awesome Peter!!

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/h/HB_IWN.jpg.57327.jpg.thumb http://www.jetphotos.net/images/h/HB_IQK.jpg.40145.jpg.thumb
Dont remove those shot Mr. Frei! :nonono:

herpa2003
04-15-2003, 07:45 PM
If aerpix goes, who will I argue with?? :D

But, I will repsect the decision that Chris makes, no matter what it is.

aerpix
04-15-2003, 09:16 PM
Thanks a lot guys, for your encouraging comments, much appreciated. As of now I am still here and allowed in. Of course I will respect Chris' decision, whatever it will be. I do not threat with the withdrawal of my photos so that I can stay here, I have my own site and can publish any photo I want there. I am not really after hits in any of the image databases in the net, but do not mind publishing a couple of shots now and then either.

I have a clear policy. When I am banned, I will go, forever. This has happened only once so far, and the reason was (for Tony) that I complained about pop-up advertisements and recommended other users also complaining to install a tool like Webwasher to kill them. This was found to be offending, and I was banned. This board was no database, just a discussion board, the largest aviation board in Germany. After I was banned I requested that my account was deleted once and forever. That's my policy, and this will also apply here, should I be banned, for whatever reason.

So for the time being I will continue to reply to those post I feel need a reply. And I will continue to issue my own personal oppinion, whether liked or not by other users.

Regards,
Peter

Lance
04-15-2003, 09:29 PM
Look this whole idea of banning is really stupid. Just because one person does not like another person opinions does not make that person a criminal. I for one have had it with all this silly non sense about banning that person or banning this person. Child's play IMHO. If that person's opinions does not leave a good taste in your mouth. Do this.

1. Do not read that persons post.
2. Turn off the computer

Simple as that. In life you are going to run into a few "assholes". Either they will make or break you. Banning the people you don't agree with is letting the "asshole" win.

B777-400
04-15-2003, 09:34 PM
aerpix, I like your policy! You (and I) have the right of free speech. Say what you believe in. Don't hold back on your comments just because Chris threatens to ban you. I don't want to see you go (great photos, great posts, great opinions), but if your words of wisdom aren't appreciated here, there are lots of other aviation forums. Voice your true thoughts!

aerpix
04-15-2003, 09:58 PM
Thank you, Lance, I know that I am sometimes a pain in the a.., but someone must take this job. I am, however, not an asshole.

Thanks, 777-400, very much appreciate your thoughts.

Regards,
Peter

DeltaCappy
04-15-2003, 10:42 PM
LOL :clap: :clap: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:

Greg
04-15-2003, 10:44 PM
Hey there buddy. your giving Americans a bad name. Just argue, don't bash. Chill, cool your jets.

B777-400
04-15-2003, 10:45 PM
Go cry a freakin river why don't ya.

Actually that was pathetic and childish but didn't hurt me. I feel like laughing. HAHA :lol: :lol:

LH 340-600
04-15-2003, 10:45 PM
:shock:
Didn't Chris say something about insults???

DeltaCappy
04-15-2003, 10:46 PM
Ban me, do whatever, I shouldn't even waste my time here.

B777-400
04-15-2003, 10:48 PM
DeltaCappy, you know. We debated, but I respected you. I even asked you if you have speech-writers. :) Never knew you were that mad at me. Guess you didn't enjoy the debates as much as I do. :smilewin:

Greg
04-15-2003, 10:49 PM
Stick to the aviation forum then. Peter has great opinions on photography and is great at it.

LH 340-600
04-15-2003, 10:50 PM
What happened to DeltaCappy's post?? :D
At least I had the fun reading it. :nod:

B777-400
04-15-2003, 10:51 PM
he edited it...I guess

DeltaCappy, aerpix didn't even had the chance to read that...what was that all about...

DeltaCappy
04-15-2003, 10:51 PM
Bull crap B777, that's just bull. You never respecting any Pro-Bush user in this forum. You never respected me, or any American in this forum, and life in general, for that I have no respect for your country, or your people, go ahead burn our flag, but that flag will always stand over yours, the only reason we're so tight is because we share boarders, but thats it., THATS IT.

To me, you didn't debate, the only thing you did was bash.... Debate, riiiiiiiiiiiiight. :roll: Go sit in the corner, you'll be of more use there.

herpa2003
04-15-2003, 10:54 PM
ouch :shock:

aerpix
04-15-2003, 10:55 PM
Okay B777, you say you have free speech, and don't hold back on your comments. You just let me say what I feel about you and Aerpix, and so what if I get banned.

Errrh, wouldn't be the first time, eh?

Your a bunch of fucking pathetic assholes

I may repeat myself, but I am not an asshole.

you have nothing else to do than bash the greatest country in the world because we kicked the guys ass that had caused the world so much trouble

Yeah, and you're a representant of that 'greatest' country in the world

you didn't have the balls to do it yourself, so you sat your fat, old, crusty asses down, ate cheese, and sipped wine,

Yup, French wine and cheese, to be precise :D .

while our brave, strong men and women fought for our, your your pathetic safety, you sat around, and didn't give a fuck what Bush did for your, or your country

As far as I can remember Bush and your brave men and women have not done anything for me personally.

you are really pathetic people, you wait, if I ever saw you in the street at night, better watch yourself, nobody bashes the best country in the world, IF YOUR CAN'T HANDLE THE BEST, GO TO THE STUPID REST!

God I am a scared, I hope I will never meet you at night in a dark street! But if I should, you will probably get yourself a couple of clouts round your ears.

You people are sick, your cheats, your frauds, half ass, wanna be's, whole don't have anything else to do than bash a great nation, while it's troops are fighting for your safety as well.

As mentioned above, they have not done anything for me.

I suggest shutting your fat mouth, going home, crying to mommy, these forums could use a cleaning.

Not really, I like the forums how they are.

Go cry a freakin river why don't ya.

Nah, bashing you makes more fun!

Regards,
Peter

herpa2003
04-15-2003, 10:57 PM
Wow. I wish I could have seen that post before it got edited! :clap:

LH 340-600
04-15-2003, 10:58 PM
That was (nearly) the complete post.

B777-400
04-15-2003, 10:58 PM
DeltaCappy, if are "sooooo brave" and not afraid to get banned why did you edit your post? By the way, that respect I had was before today...now you are just pathetic.

DeltaCappy
04-15-2003, 10:58 PM
:skeptic:

herpa2003
04-15-2003, 10:59 PM
How many people are on right now? This forum is going so fast I can hardly keep track of it!!

B777-400
04-15-2003, 11:00 PM
13, right now

LH 340-600
04-15-2003, 11:00 PM
You can see the numner of people in the forum on the buttom of the index page.

aerpix
04-15-2003, 11:01 PM
For all who had no chance to see Cory's post, go back a page, I did see it, and did reply to it. You can see it quoted in my last post in this thread. It was a marvellous masterpiece of a representant of the greatest nation on this planet :D :D .

Regards,
Peter

B777-400
04-15-2003, 11:01 PM
holy, this is fast...

DeltaCappy
04-15-2003, 11:01 PM
Well it's up now ;)

But again, I'm not afriad of getting banned, why would I, me picture being taken off the website, that only sucks for you, only reason I do it, is believe it or not, for your enjoyment. And for the forum, this forum is a reck, you people you so against each other it's sick, you say your debating, sounds more like yelling down each others throats. This is an off-topic forum, sounds more like the off-topic bash. :shakehea: :shakehea:

herpa2003
04-15-2003, 11:02 PM
Keep arguing, I need to get my post count up!! :lol:

B777-400
04-15-2003, 11:03 PM
no Delta, you aren't bashing and yelling and dissing and swearing...only we are...truth be told, I'd rather see you banned than aerpix! (take it personally)

Chris Kilroy
04-15-2003, 11:03 PM
Well, this one turned out well...

Take it private guys.

*clank*